1 00:03:32,980 --> 00:03:44,070 [Music] 2 00:03:49,990 --> 00:03:47,030 the smoke radio for the masses headline 3 00:03:51,830 --> 00:03:50,000 edition july 8th 1947. 4 00:03:54,309 --> 00:03:51,840 the army air forces has announced that a 5 00:03:55,990 --> 00:03:54,319 flying disc has been found and is now in 6 00:03:58,710 --> 00:03:56,000 the possession of the army 7 00:04:00,710 --> 00:03:58,720 if the game is rigged change the game 8 00:04:03,509 --> 00:04:00,720 game changer 9 00:04:05,830 --> 00:04:03,519 i occasionally think how quickly 10 00:04:07,190 --> 00:04:05,840 our differences worldwide 11 00:04:09,910 --> 00:04:07,200 would vanish 12 00:04:16,069 --> 00:04:09,920 if we were facing an alien threat from 13 00:04:21,590 --> 00:04:18,870 this is fade to black with your host 14 00:04:24,790 --> 00:04:21,600 jimmy church on the game changer radio 15 00:04:28,390 --> 00:04:24,800 network and kgra the global radio 16 00:04:33,740 --> 00:04:30,629 i need your help to get to the year 17 00:04:39,510 --> 00:04:37,430 [Music] 18 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:39,520 you are listening to fate to black with 19 00:04:49,350 --> 00:04:42,450 jimmy church on the game changer network 20 00:04:51,110 --> 00:04:49,360 [Music] 21 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:51,120 good evening 22 00:04:56,870 --> 00:04:53,840 fade to black 23 00:04:58,150 --> 00:04:56,880 this spoke radio 24 00:04:59,189 --> 00:04:58,160 for 25 00:05:01,510 --> 00:04:59,199 the 26 00:05:03,350 --> 00:05:01,520 masses 27 00:05:05,830 --> 00:05:03,360 yeah 28 00:05:08,110 --> 00:05:05,840 how you doing today's thursday september 29 00:05:11,110 --> 00:05:08,120 2nd 2021 30 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:11,120 246 days into the new year 31 00:05:23,350 --> 00:05:14,970 only 129 days left 32 00:05:27,189 --> 00:05:25,110 we are live from a bunker somewhere in 33 00:05:28,430 --> 00:05:27,199 the middle of nowhere 34 00:05:32,070 --> 00:05:28,440 a total 35 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:32,080 undisclosed location 36 00:05:37,029 --> 00:05:34,560 but it is beautiful 37 00:05:38,710 --> 00:05:37,039 it is i got a new ceiling going in 38 00:05:40,310 --> 00:05:38,720 tomorrow 39 00:05:42,310 --> 00:05:40,320 you won't be able to see it but i'll 40 00:05:45,909 --> 00:05:42,320 know it's there 41 00:05:48,790 --> 00:05:47,510 yeah 42 00:05:50,710 --> 00:05:48,800 i would like to welcome everybody 43 00:05:53,350 --> 00:05:50,720 listening all around the world all 44 00:05:55,270 --> 00:05:53,360 across the united states 45 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:55,280 hither and tether to and fro back and 46 00:06:00,629 --> 00:05:57,120 forth up and down east and west north 47 00:06:03,430 --> 00:06:00,639 and south far and near 48 00:06:08,070 --> 00:06:03,440 this is fade to black for kjcr the game 49 00:06:10,230 --> 00:06:08,080 changer network and kgra the planets 50 00:06:12,370 --> 00:06:10,240 i'm your jimmy church what is cracking 51 00:06:13,670 --> 00:06:12,380 everybody how you doing 52 00:06:16,710 --> 00:06:13,680 [Music] 53 00:06:19,189 --> 00:06:16,720 how you doing 54 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:19,199 tonight 55 00:06:23,510 --> 00:06:21,680 yeah 56 00:06:25,420 --> 00:06:23,520 tonight right here 57 00:06:26,629 --> 00:06:25,430 on this very show 58 00:06:29,189 --> 00:06:26,639 [Music] 59 00:06:31,350 --> 00:06:29,199 ryan sprague 60 00:06:34,230 --> 00:06:31,360 brian sprague 61 00:06:36,309 --> 00:06:34,240 hanging out with us i'm gonna make 62 00:06:38,390 --> 00:06:36,319 another attempt at a conversation with 63 00:06:40,790 --> 00:06:38,400 ryan tonight about ufos 64 00:06:42,629 --> 00:06:40,800 it is so funny ryan you know he's a man 65 00:06:45,029 --> 00:06:42,639 about town you know 66 00:06:46,629 --> 00:06:45,039 new york city 67 00:06:49,350 --> 00:06:46,639 he texted me earlier today he's like 68 00:06:50,790 --> 00:06:49,360 dude man i gotta go uh i gotta go do 69 00:06:53,350 --> 00:06:50,800 some filming 70 00:06:55,670 --> 00:06:53,360 you know he's in demand dudes in the man 71 00:06:57,510 --> 00:06:55,680 and i thought what is he canceling he's 72 00:07:00,070 --> 00:06:57,520 like i'm gonna roll in 73 00:07:01,510 --> 00:07:00,080 after we're done shooting today uh right 74 00:07:03,830 --> 00:07:01,520 before the show 75 00:07:08,550 --> 00:07:03,840 and i said hey man okay it's all good 76 00:07:10,790 --> 00:07:08,560 it's all good so as i am sitting here 77 00:07:13,670 --> 00:07:10,800 at 703 78 00:07:17,270 --> 00:07:13,680 i get a text from ryan 79 00:07:23,029 --> 00:07:19,830 all right so yeah we're gonna do this 80 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:23,039 tonight ryan sprague is here 81 00:07:28,830 --> 00:07:26,240 all right now um coming up 82 00:07:31,189 --> 00:07:28,840 we've got a very very 83 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:31,199 busy september 84 00:07:38,550 --> 00:07:34,880 in in front of me okay and it's uh 85 00:07:40,469 --> 00:07:38,560 starting next week uh which will be uh 86 00:07:44,469 --> 00:07:40,479 today september 3rd 87 00:07:47,189 --> 00:07:44,479 saturday september 11th uh we are 88 00:07:48,629 --> 00:07:47,199 all going to be attending the pasadena 89 00:07:52,309 --> 00:07:48,639 film festival 90 00:07:54,070 --> 00:07:52,319 and our film will be doing its worldwide 91 00:07:55,749 --> 00:07:54,080 premiere 92 00:07:56,749 --> 00:07:55,759 uh at the festival 93 00:07:59,430 --> 00:07:56,759 which is 94 00:08:00,550 --> 00:07:59,440 extraordinary the revelations and that 95 00:08:03,510 --> 00:08:00,560 will be 96 00:08:05,110 --> 00:08:03,520 saturday september 11th and i'm going to 97 00:08:05,909 --> 00:08:05,120 be there 98 00:08:08,070 --> 00:08:05,919 uh 99 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:08,080 executive producer lori wagner is going 100 00:08:12,629 --> 00:08:10,639 to be there john sumple's flying in from 101 00:08:16,550 --> 00:08:12,639 south africa 102 00:08:18,869 --> 00:08:16,560 man jamie's coming in from florida 103 00:08:20,390 --> 00:08:18,879 so we're all going to be there okay so i 104 00:08:24,230 --> 00:08:20,400 want you to come out 105 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:24,240 and uh attend okay so that's saturday 106 00:08:29,909 --> 00:08:27,680 september 11th and uh we're gonna do a q 107 00:08:33,190 --> 00:08:29,919 a after the movie too as well 108 00:08:34,949 --> 00:08:33,200 that's a bucket list thing for me 109 00:08:36,709 --> 00:08:34,959 i love watching that stuff 110 00:08:39,269 --> 00:08:36,719 uh you know different film festivals 111 00:08:40,550 --> 00:08:39,279 going on i am db pro and 112 00:08:41,509 --> 00:08:40,560 and watching 113 00:08:47,030 --> 00:08:41,519 you know 114 00:08:49,430 --> 00:08:47,040 uh that go down i've always wanted to do 115 00:08:50,870 --> 00:08:49,440 that and i didn't know how i would be 116 00:08:53,430 --> 00:08:50,880 able to do it but 117 00:08:55,030 --> 00:08:53,440 i'm gonna be doing it saturday september 118 00:08:57,910 --> 00:08:55,040 11th so come and hang out with us for 119 00:09:00,870 --> 00:08:57,920 that and then a week later after that is 120 00:09:03,110 --> 00:09:00,880 the conscious life expo which is uh the 121 00:09:04,070 --> 00:09:03,120 weekend of september 17th through the 122 00:09:06,870 --> 00:09:04,080 19th 123 00:09:08,949 --> 00:09:06,880 that's at the lax hilton 124 00:09:10,230 --> 00:09:08,959 and you can go to consciouslifeexpo.com 125 00:09:14,070 --> 00:09:10,240 for your tickets and if we'll use your 126 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:14,080 promo code jimmy uh for that 127 00:09:18,230 --> 00:09:16,160 and that's an in-person conference but 128 00:09:19,750 --> 00:09:18,240 if you can't attend in person i totally 129 00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:19,760 get it 130 00:09:24,670 --> 00:09:22,320 there is always live streaming and you 131 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:24,680 have all of those options at 132 00:09:27,750 --> 00:09:26,480 consciouslifeexpo.com use that promo 133 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:27,760 code jimmy 134 00:09:31,910 --> 00:09:29,839 and i want to mention uh and so right 135 00:09:34,310 --> 00:09:31,920 after that is laughlin nevada going to 136 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:34,320 be out there with ronnie mcmullen 137 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:36,720 and his life changed t car 138 00:09:40,470 --> 00:09:39,120 and uh the driver 139 00:09:45,430 --> 00:09:40,480 yeah 140 00:09:47,829 --> 00:09:45,440 and uh so i'm gonna be doing that the 141 00:09:50,949 --> 00:09:47,839 last uh third weekend of september 142 00:09:52,150 --> 00:09:50,959 and uh earlier today continuing on with 143 00:09:55,430 --> 00:09:52,160 september 144 00:09:58,230 --> 00:09:55,440 earlier today i went on whitley's show 145 00:09:59,990 --> 00:09:58,240 and we did that earlier today 146 00:10:02,949 --> 00:10:00,000 and as soon as 147 00:10:05,990 --> 00:10:02,959 uh that is available uh whitley will let 148 00:10:06,949 --> 00:10:06,000 me know and uh we shot audio and video 149 00:10:09,670 --> 00:10:06,959 for that 150 00:10:11,670 --> 00:10:09,680 and i'll let everybody know it's i you 151 00:10:13,430 --> 00:10:11,680 know i don't know when whitley does his 152 00:10:15,509 --> 00:10:13,440 releases is it going to be this weekend 153 00:10:18,150 --> 00:10:15,519 next week as soon as whitley lets me 154 00:10:20,389 --> 00:10:18,160 know i will uh post it up in social 155 00:10:23,190 --> 00:10:20,399 media for all of you to go and check out 156 00:10:25,670 --> 00:10:23,200 most of you are already you know uh a 157 00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:25,680 whitley subscriber and check him out but 158 00:10:29,350 --> 00:10:28,079 anyway so there's that and then this 159 00:10:31,110 --> 00:10:29,360 sunday 160 00:10:34,550 --> 00:10:31,120 i will be 161 00:10:37,269 --> 00:10:34,560 the guest on the tracy austin show 162 00:10:39,110 --> 00:10:37,279 sunday night live 163 00:10:40,069 --> 00:10:39,120 i can't wait for this it's gonna be 164 00:10:40,870 --> 00:10:40,079 awesome 165 00:10:43,509 --> 00:10:40,880 so 166 00:10:46,949 --> 00:10:43,519 that is this sunday and then my new 167 00:10:49,509 --> 00:10:46,959 ceiling goes in tomorrow september busy 168 00:10:50,870 --> 00:10:49,519 month around here 169 00:10:53,430 --> 00:10:50,880 all right 170 00:10:54,710 --> 00:10:53,440 let's go i am ready 171 00:11:01,110 --> 00:10:54,720 uh 172 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:01,120 glitches i have no idea 173 00:11:04,949 --> 00:11:04,079 i i i i i don't even know what that 174 00:11:06,870 --> 00:11:04,959 means 175 00:11:08,949 --> 00:11:06,880 because i think we're fine 176 00:11:12,150 --> 00:11:08,959 [Laughter] 177 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:12,160 ufo shows have so many 178 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:13,519 uh 179 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:18,720 it's not sports 180 00:11:22,949 --> 00:11:20,880 i've said that so many times 181 00:11:24,630 --> 00:11:22,959 you know i never had issues until uh 182 00:11:26,150 --> 00:11:24,640 doing ufo stuff 183 00:11:27,670 --> 00:11:26,160 and uh 184 00:11:29,670 --> 00:11:27,680 i'm sure that others have those same 185 00:11:33,030 --> 00:11:29,680 issues all right moving on follow me on 186 00:11:36,389 --> 00:11:33,040 twitter at jchurchradio 187 00:11:40,069 --> 00:11:36,399 follow me on j church radio okay at j 188 00:11:43,269 --> 00:11:40,079 church radio on twitter the sandbox on 189 00:11:45,509 --> 00:11:43,279 twitter i use tweetdeck 190 00:11:46,630 --> 00:11:45,519 f2b don't use the new version of 191 00:11:48,470 --> 00:11:46,640 tweetdeck 192 00:11:51,590 --> 00:11:48,480 it messed up my system used the old 193 00:11:53,190 --> 00:11:51,600 version of tweettech and i used to years 194 00:11:55,190 --> 00:11:53,200 ago 195 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:55,200 got so much to talk about tonight but 196 00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:57,600 years ago i was so happy with twitter 197 00:12:02,710 --> 00:11:59,920 and the sandbox uh started to blow up 198 00:12:05,030 --> 00:12:02,720 and now you we all know what it is today 199 00:12:06,710 --> 00:12:05,040 it's like a centerpiece for this uh ufo 200 00:12:09,509 --> 00:12:06,720 community and it's great and you guys 201 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:09,519 built all of that yourself 202 00:12:15,430 --> 00:12:12,959 f2b that was somebody in the sandbox and 203 00:12:17,670 --> 00:12:15,440 you know what somebody 204 00:12:19,670 --> 00:12:17,680 does somebody remember who did hashtag 205 00:12:21,269 --> 00:12:19,680 f2b first 206 00:12:23,110 --> 00:12:21,279 and i didn't like it because you had to 207 00:12:26,230 --> 00:12:23,120 hit the two 208 00:12:30,949 --> 00:12:28,069 but anyway who did 209 00:12:32,310 --> 00:12:30,959 who did hashtag f2b somebody out there 210 00:12:34,389 --> 00:12:32,320 did that first 211 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:34,399 and and i was so fired up and i would 212 00:12:38,150 --> 00:12:35,920 announce every night on the show get 213 00:12:40,790 --> 00:12:38,160 tweet deck one of the fader knots will 214 00:12:42,949 --> 00:12:40,800 help you out and get tweetdeck loaded 215 00:12:46,790 --> 00:12:42,959 your first tweet is hashtag f2b i am 216 00:12:50,069 --> 00:12:46,800 here somebody help me out with this 217 00:12:53,269 --> 00:12:50,079 so there you go all right uh somebody 218 00:12:56,310 --> 00:12:53,279 somebody help me out who did hashtag f2b 219 00:12:58,870 --> 00:12:56,320 that's got to go back 220 00:13:01,350 --> 00:12:58,880 it's got to go back seven years 221 00:13:03,590 --> 00:13:01,360 yeah it's get or more 222 00:13:05,350 --> 00:13:03,600 uh thinking about that and there's one 223 00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:05,360 other thing i want to do 224 00:13:10,230 --> 00:13:09,040 and we used to back in the day 225 00:13:12,389 --> 00:13:10,240 um 226 00:13:14,790 --> 00:13:12,399 we used to have 227 00:13:16,389 --> 00:13:14,800 a drive-in theater night 228 00:13:19,190 --> 00:13:16,399 for the fade or not 229 00:13:22,790 --> 00:13:19,200 this exclusive area inside of the 230 00:13:24,870 --> 00:13:22,800 website where we would play movies and 231 00:13:27,590 --> 00:13:24,880 then we had a chat room below 232 00:13:30,069 --> 00:13:27,600 and we would watch these bee movies or 233 00:13:30,870 --> 00:13:30,079 whatever you know it was really funny to 234 00:13:33,590 --> 00:13:30,880 do 235 00:13:36,870 --> 00:13:33,600 and and just hang out and we would have 236 00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:36,880 uh some nights you know 100 200 people 237 00:13:42,150 --> 00:13:38,480 in there 238 00:13:43,670 --> 00:13:42,160 and we stopped doing it 239 00:13:44,790 --> 00:13:43,680 oh yeah i remember while we stopped 240 00:13:46,790 --> 00:13:44,800 doing it 241 00:13:48,550 --> 00:13:46,800 yeah i i don't even want to talk about 242 00:13:50,790 --> 00:13:48,560 why we stopped doing it 243 00:13:52,949 --> 00:13:50,800 but we did 244 00:13:56,550 --> 00:13:52,959 i want to talk to drew i want to get 245 00:13:57,509 --> 00:13:56,560 another drive-in theater set up 246 00:13:59,829 --> 00:13:57,519 and 247 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:59,839 uh exclusive you've got to be a fader 248 00:14:04,790 --> 00:14:01,440 not to get in 249 00:14:07,350 --> 00:14:04,800 and you've got to so right to get inside 250 00:14:08,629 --> 00:14:07,360 of the website for you to do that you 251 00:14:10,949 --> 00:14:08,639 have to be a fader not and you have to 252 00:14:12,470 --> 00:14:10,959 get registered that's it it's free 253 00:14:15,030 --> 00:14:12,480 it doesn't matter but you have to be 254 00:14:16,629 --> 00:14:15,040 afraid or not and then we can just go 255 00:14:20,230 --> 00:14:16,639 and watch some 256 00:14:23,110 --> 00:14:20,240 some cheesy b movies right 257 00:14:26,069 --> 00:14:23,120 nuclear women from mars right you know 258 00:14:28,389 --> 00:14:26,079 stuff what whatever 259 00:14:31,670 --> 00:14:28,399 that was probably a movie 260 00:14:34,389 --> 00:14:31,680 right cat people on the moon 261 00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:34,399 we'll go and watch those movies and and 262 00:14:39,189 --> 00:14:36,320 hang out all night and say go beckley 263 00:14:42,230 --> 00:14:39,199 teppy that was when um 264 00:14:44,870 --> 00:14:42,240 oh man i'm getting way sideways but i'm 265 00:14:47,750 --> 00:14:44,880 looking at uh carol perrault's uh 266 00:14:49,269 --> 00:14:47,760 paintings over here one of that's where 267 00:14:54,310 --> 00:14:49,279 bacon happened 268 00:14:56,949 --> 00:14:54,320 at the drive-in movies eight years ago 269 00:15:03,430 --> 00:14:59,430 it was one of the funnest you know that 270 00:15:05,189 --> 00:15:03,440 year the bacon year that was a good year 271 00:15:08,949 --> 00:15:05,199 it was a good year that was a long time 272 00:15:10,949 --> 00:15:08,959 ago all right hashtag f2b is the sandbox 273 00:15:13,269 --> 00:15:10,959 get tweet deck 274 00:15:17,030 --> 00:15:13,279 and let's get the drive-in movies 275 00:15:19,829 --> 00:15:17,040 going again and uh do you guys remember 276 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:19,839 uh you know we've got so many new fader 277 00:15:26,790 --> 00:15:22,959 knots uh you know over the years 278 00:15:29,110 --> 00:15:26,800 uh are any of you still around that uh 279 00:15:31,350 --> 00:15:29,120 uh remember the drive-in movies we did 280 00:15:32,949 --> 00:15:31,360 on saturday night 281 00:15:37,269 --> 00:15:32,959 let's see 282 00:15:38,629 --> 00:15:37,279 to be a fader not when that was done 283 00:15:41,189 --> 00:15:38,639 really i thought you were around back 284 00:15:43,590 --> 00:15:41,199 then donnie okay all right but yeah 285 00:15:45,350 --> 00:15:43,600 we're gonna do it again i i really 286 00:15:46,790 --> 00:15:45,360 enjoyed it 287 00:15:48,790 --> 00:15:46,800 and uh 288 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:48,800 yeah i'm gonna get it set up okay all 289 00:15:54,550 --> 00:15:50,000 right 290 00:15:57,189 --> 00:15:54,560 breaking news man i'm already behind 291 00:15:58,949 --> 00:15:57,199 according to a statement released by 292 00:16:01,189 --> 00:15:58,959 dartmouth college 293 00:16:03,430 --> 00:16:01,199 evidence of a fermented beverage 294 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:03,440 otherwise known as 295 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:04,880 beer 296 00:16:09,269 --> 00:16:07,440 has been found in residues from drinking 297 00:16:13,110 --> 00:16:09,279 vessels unearthed 298 00:16:15,829 --> 00:16:13,120 at a nine thousand year old burial site 299 00:16:18,389 --> 00:16:15,839 and gautu which is located in southern 300 00:16:20,230 --> 00:16:18,399 china's yangtze river valley you know 301 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:20,240 where they built that dam 302 00:16:26,870 --> 00:16:24,320 and uh the burial contained the 303 00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:26,880 skeletons of two people whose remains 304 00:16:31,030 --> 00:16:28,720 have been placed in a platform 305 00:16:34,069 --> 00:16:31,040 surrounded by a ditch 306 00:16:36,550 --> 00:16:34,079 pits in the mound contain numerous pots 307 00:16:38,710 --> 00:16:36,560 of varying sizes painted with white slip 308 00:16:41,749 --> 00:16:38,720 in abstract designs 309 00:16:43,189 --> 00:16:41,759 many of them were still intact 310 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:43,199 and contained 311 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:45,360 starch 312 00:16:51,430 --> 00:16:46,959 right 313 00:16:53,509 --> 00:16:51,440 fossilized plant matter mold and yeast 314 00:16:55,590 --> 00:16:53,519 all of it consistent with a sweet cloudy 315 00:16:59,749 --> 00:16:55,600 beverage brewed from rice 316 00:17:01,829 --> 00:16:59,759 a grain known a a grain known as jobs 317 00:17:03,749 --> 00:17:01,839 tears 318 00:17:07,189 --> 00:17:03,759 they were brewing beer 319 00:17:10,789 --> 00:17:07,199 in china now think about that they you 320 00:17:13,909 --> 00:17:10,799 know beer in egypt beer in china 321 00:17:16,789 --> 00:17:13,919 what is it in our dna 322 00:17:18,789 --> 00:17:16,799 that humans that long ago 323 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:18,799 all figured that out 324 00:17:20,870 --> 00:17:19,679 right 325 00:17:22,069 --> 00:17:20,880 yeast 326 00:17:23,270 --> 00:17:22,079 barley 327 00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:23,280 wheat 328 00:17:27,750 --> 00:17:25,199 sugar 329 00:17:30,789 --> 00:17:27,760 party right 330 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:30,799 it's crazy all right now this is uh this 331 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:32,640 is some big news right here this is 332 00:17:35,590 --> 00:17:34,000 crazy news 333 00:17:37,350 --> 00:17:35,600 here we go 334 00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:37,360 astronomers have taken the first 335 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:40,160 detailed look at a mysterious milky way 336 00:17:43,029 --> 00:17:41,200 object 337 00:17:45,430 --> 00:17:43,039 known as 338 00:17:47,669 --> 00:17:45,440 the accident 339 00:17:49,830 --> 00:17:47,679 and discovered that it's even more 340 00:17:51,190 --> 00:17:49,840 perplexing than previous studies 341 00:17:52,710 --> 00:17:51,200 indicated 342 00:17:54,870 --> 00:17:52,720 the accident 343 00:17:57,029 --> 00:17:54,880 is not quite a star 344 00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:57,039 scientists can tell from its dim glow 345 00:18:02,789 --> 00:17:59,440 that there's no nuclear fusion powering 346 00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:02,799 the object that's one and it's not quite 347 00:18:07,110 --> 00:18:05,120 a planet either 348 00:18:09,750 --> 00:18:07,120 according to a study published in the 349 00:18:12,950 --> 00:18:09,760 astrophysical journal letters 350 00:18:16,549 --> 00:18:12,960 the accident is something in between 351 00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:16,559 a rare class of object known as a brown 352 00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:18,320 dwarf or 353 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:20,480 a failed star 354 00:18:27,430 --> 00:18:23,919 and it's moving fast very fast the 355 00:18:28,430 --> 00:18:27,440 accident zooms through our galaxy 356 00:18:33,029 --> 00:18:28,440 at about 357 00:18:35,190 --> 00:18:33,039 500 000 miles per hour this fact means 358 00:18:36,150 --> 00:18:35,200 that the accident that's what it's 359 00:18:38,470 --> 00:18:36,160 called 360 00:18:41,350 --> 00:18:38,480 is very old and has been jostled around 361 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:41,360 by the gravity of larger objects 362 00:18:44,310 --> 00:18:43,120 for 10 363 00:18:45,750 --> 00:18:44,320 billion 364 00:18:47,990 --> 00:18:45,760 years 365 00:18:49,750 --> 00:18:48,000 accelerating every time 366 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:49,760 to 500 367 00:18:54,549 --> 00:18:52,480 000 miles per hour all right the big 368 00:18:57,110 --> 00:18:54,559 news abba 369 00:19:00,310 --> 00:18:57,120 that's right dancing queen abba 370 00:19:02,070 --> 00:19:00,320 is releasing its first new music in 371 00:19:04,789 --> 00:19:02,080 four decades 372 00:19:08,470 --> 00:19:04,799 along with a concert performance that 373 00:19:11,350 --> 00:19:08,480 will see the dancing queen quartet going 374 00:19:12,230 --> 00:19:11,360 entirely digital 375 00:19:14,710 --> 00:19:12,240 what 376 00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:14,720 that's right the forthcoming album it's 377 00:19:21,070 --> 00:19:17,600 called voyage will be released november 378 00:19:22,870 --> 00:19:21,080 5th and it is a follow-up to 379 00:19:24,470 --> 00:19:22,880 1981's 380 00:19:26,710 --> 00:19:24,480 the visitors 381 00:19:29,909 --> 00:19:26,720 which until now had been the swan song 382 00:19:33,350 --> 00:19:29,919 of the swedish super group and a virtual 383 00:19:35,830 --> 00:19:33,360 version of the band will begin a series 384 00:19:38,029 --> 00:19:35,840 of concerts in london 385 00:19:40,630 --> 00:19:38,039 on may 27th 386 00:19:43,190 --> 00:19:40,640 2022 holograms 387 00:19:45,110 --> 00:19:43,200 a little side note i i went check this 388 00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:45,120 out today 389 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:46,559 agnetha 390 00:19:50,390 --> 00:19:48,960 today is 71. 391 00:19:52,710 --> 00:19:50,400 bjorn 392 00:19:53,990 --> 00:19:52,720 is 76. 393 00:20:04,870 --> 00:19:54,000 benny 394 00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:04,880 and annie frid 395 00:20:08,549 --> 00:20:07,039 today well not today her birthday is not 396 00:20:10,390 --> 00:20:08,559 today but this year 397 00:20:11,750 --> 00:20:10,400 she's 75. 398 00:20:13,350 --> 00:20:11,760 so i guess that's why they're going 399 00:20:17,510 --> 00:20:13,360 virtual let's get this show cracking 400 00:20:18,870 --> 00:20:17,520 happy birthday to today keanu reeves 401 00:20:21,430 --> 00:20:18,880 neo 402 00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:21,440 is 57. 403 00:20:27,590 --> 00:20:23,760 salma hayek 404 00:20:28,789 --> 00:20:27,600 today is 55 harvey levin 405 00:20:32,830 --> 00:20:28,799 today 406 00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:32,840 71 and fear factor guitarist dino 407 00:20:38,230 --> 00:20:36,799 cazares is 55. you know um 408 00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:38,240 i'm going to tell you a keanu reeve 409 00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:39,679 story real quick 410 00:20:44,310 --> 00:20:42,000 and i met him a couple of times all in 411 00:20:46,390 --> 00:20:44,320 passing all with the music business and 412 00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:46,400 i did talk to him one day at the namm 413 00:20:50,310 --> 00:20:48,640 show and he came into our booth and was 414 00:20:52,070 --> 00:20:50,320 looking at the amps and and i had a 415 00:20:53,430 --> 00:20:52,080 moment he was by himself 416 00:20:54,789 --> 00:20:53,440 it was pretty cool 417 00:20:55,669 --> 00:20:54,799 um but that's not what i'm going to 418 00:20:56,549 --> 00:20:55,679 share 419 00:20:59,430 --> 00:20:56,559 so 420 00:21:02,630 --> 00:20:59,440 um he comes in 421 00:21:05,510 --> 00:21:02,640 to guitar center in hollywood and 422 00:21:06,549 --> 00:21:05,520 and i walked up and a friend of mine who 423 00:21:09,350 --> 00:21:06,559 worked 424 00:21:11,029 --> 00:21:09,360 um i think was mark leahy he's not a 425 00:21:12,230 --> 00:21:11,039 district manager for guitar center on 426 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:12,240 the east coast or something like that 427 00:21:17,830 --> 00:21:15,600 but anyway mark was a salesman 428 00:21:20,549 --> 00:21:17,840 and uh and he comes up and goes dude man 429 00:21:22,950 --> 00:21:20,559 keanu reeves is buying a base from me 430 00:21:25,669 --> 00:21:22,960 i said oh really so i kind of walked 431 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:25,679 through where's neo you know 432 00:21:29,350 --> 00:21:27,600 and uh wait a minute that might have 433 00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,360 been that might have been before the 434 00:21:34,470 --> 00:21:31,600 matrix came out 435 00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,480 um so anyway i i walk up 436 00:21:37,669 --> 00:21:35,919 this count who's playing the space and 437 00:21:39,750 --> 00:21:37,679 he buys the base 438 00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:39,760 and uh i get introduced to him and this 439 00:21:44,149 --> 00:21:41,520 is the crazy part 440 00:21:45,669 --> 00:21:44,159 he buys the base and it goes into a soft 441 00:21:48,630 --> 00:21:45,679 shell case 442 00:21:49,990 --> 00:21:48,640 and mark and i walk him out and i 443 00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:50,000 thought we were going to walk to his car 444 00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,360 and he said i'm parked in front said 445 00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:53,280 okay so we walked out on sunset 446 00:21:55,990 --> 00:21:54,480 boulevard 447 00:21:59,029 --> 00:21:56,000 and 448 00:22:02,149 --> 00:21:59,039 there's a motorcycle parked there 449 00:22:04,149 --> 00:22:02,159 he walks over to the motorcycle 450 00:22:07,669 --> 00:22:04,159 and gets on it and i was like oh man 451 00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:07,679 he's with a base takes the base puts it 452 00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:09,919 on his back like a backpack puts the 453 00:22:14,390 --> 00:22:12,480 both straps on the neck is sticking 454 00:22:16,630 --> 00:22:14,400 straight up he's got his helmet on 455 00:22:18,630 --> 00:22:16,640 something he's like see you guys later 456 00:22:20,950 --> 00:22:18,640 starts this and cruised 457 00:22:22,789 --> 00:22:20,960 right up sunset boulevard with that new 458 00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:22,799 base strapped to his back 459 00:22:27,990 --> 00:22:25,679 it was nuts and i was all i could think 460 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:28,000 and i'm looking if people are driving 461 00:22:30,230 --> 00:22:29,200 they don't know they don't know it's 462 00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:30,240 keanu 463 00:22:34,390 --> 00:22:32,400 and he's got a base on his back anyway 464 00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:34,400 what what made me think of that oh it's 465 00:22:42,710 --> 00:22:37,679 his birthday happy birthday keanu let's 466 00:22:45,750 --> 00:22:42,720 get to on this day in history otd 31 bc 467 00:22:48,470 --> 00:22:45,760 at the battle of actium 468 00:22:51,430 --> 00:22:48,480 roman leader octavian defeats the forces 469 00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:51,440 of mark antony and cleopatra 470 00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:53,679 and before their loss they didn't even 471 00:22:57,990 --> 00:22:55,520 want to stick around 472 00:22:59,510 --> 00:22:58,000 anthony and cleopatra broke through the 473 00:23:03,430 --> 00:22:59,520 enemy lines 474 00:23:06,390 --> 00:23:03,440 and fled back to egypt by boat 475 00:23:10,070 --> 00:23:06,400 left her forces behind a year later they 476 00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:10,080 both commit suicide fader fact 477 00:23:15,750 --> 00:23:13,760 marco polo okay now listen to me 478 00:23:17,669 --> 00:23:15,760 listen 479 00:23:19,029 --> 00:23:17,679 marco polo 480 00:23:20,950 --> 00:23:19,039 did not 481 00:23:22,630 --> 00:23:20,960 introduce pasta 482 00:23:24,710 --> 00:23:22,640 to italy 483 00:23:26,789 --> 00:23:24,720 from china 484 00:23:28,710 --> 00:23:26,799 he did not 485 00:23:31,750 --> 00:23:28,720 that's dogma 486 00:23:33,590 --> 00:23:31,760 that's that's folklore 487 00:23:35,190 --> 00:23:33,600 he didn't 488 00:23:37,430 --> 00:23:35,200 italians 489 00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:37,440 stole pasta 490 00:23:43,750 --> 00:23:42,230 that 491 00:23:44,950 --> 00:23:43,760 is your fader fact look it up i know 492 00:23:47,029 --> 00:23:44,960 what you're saying 493 00:23:49,430 --> 00:23:47,039 jimmy that goes against everything i was 494 00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,440 taught everybody in this audience right 495 00:23:53,269 --> 00:23:51,840 now is thinking that exact same thing 496 00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:53,279 look it up 497 00:23:57,350 --> 00:23:56,080 tonight very special guest ryan sprague 498 00:23:58,870 --> 00:23:57,360 is joining us 499 00:24:01,830 --> 00:23:58,880 for another try 500 00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:01,840 and a conversation about ufos 501 00:24:06,070 --> 00:24:04,159 all right time for me to hit this river 502 00:24:08,390 --> 00:24:06,080 moon coffee 503 00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:08,400 yeah man i can't wait for my new ceiling 504 00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:10,559 i got to get rid of this echo 505 00:24:14,630 --> 00:24:12,720 and uh i don't know if you can hear it 506 00:24:16,870 --> 00:24:14,640 it's getting more dead 507 00:24:18,390 --> 00:24:16,880 in here because i've hung up everything 508 00:24:21,350 --> 00:24:18,400 i can i've got every 509 00:24:23,590 --> 00:24:21,360 square inch of every wall covered and 510 00:24:25,510 --> 00:24:23,600 that's still got an echo got carpets on 511 00:24:27,590 --> 00:24:25,520 the floors covering the tile i love the 512 00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:27,600 tile ain't working 513 00:24:37,190 --> 00:24:30,080 um and now new ceiling 514 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,350 the band is called dog star 515 00:24:47,350 --> 00:24:44,390 i i missed that one 516 00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:47,360 i don't know what that is all right all 517 00:24:51,110 --> 00:24:49,760 right okay 518 00:24:53,029 --> 00:24:51,120 i'm already out of time because i'm 519 00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:53,039 rambling about keanu reeves and his 520 00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:54,480 motorcycle but 521 00:25:00,390 --> 00:24:57,360 i read last week 522 00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:00,400 that music from your teenage years 523 00:25:04,950 --> 00:25:03,200 junior high through high school 524 00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:04,960 you know that you listened to and 525 00:25:09,909 --> 00:25:08,080 enjoyed your favorite stuff 526 00:25:12,149 --> 00:25:09,919 when played today 527 00:25:14,390 --> 00:25:12,159 it activates dopamine and other 528 00:25:17,510 --> 00:25:14,400 chemicals in your brain 529 00:25:19,430 --> 00:25:17,520 and that music is the music you find 530 00:25:22,950 --> 00:25:19,440 most enjoyable 531 00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,960 you identify it as perfect 532 00:25:27,430 --> 00:25:24,559 and it moves you 533 00:25:28,470 --> 00:25:27,440 both physically and emotionally 534 00:25:30,070 --> 00:25:28,480 because 535 00:25:32,230 --> 00:25:30,080 apparently 536 00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:32,240 your teenage years 537 00:25:38,789 --> 00:25:34,640 are when your brain is finishing its 538 00:25:41,990 --> 00:25:38,799 development it's a very important stage 539 00:25:45,590 --> 00:25:42,000 and you want to go and and listen to 540 00:25:47,269 --> 00:25:45,600 music and parties and things and 541 00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:47,279 that's why 542 00:25:50,549 --> 00:25:49,360 it's the best music 543 00:25:52,310 --> 00:25:50,559 today 544 00:25:54,789 --> 00:25:52,320 i proved this 545 00:25:56,950 --> 00:25:54,799 to be true 546 00:25:59,350 --> 00:25:56,960 you see i went back 547 00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,360 and jammed all day today 548 00:26:04,149 --> 00:26:01,200 to some classic 549 00:26:07,830 --> 00:26:06,149 one size fits all 550 00:26:13,830 --> 00:26:07,840 specifically 551 00:26:16,310 --> 00:26:13,840 garage 552 00:26:19,830 --> 00:26:16,320 now all three fell between the years of 553 00:26:22,710 --> 00:26:19,840 1975 and 1979. 554 00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:22,720 give or take a few months 555 00:26:28,950 --> 00:26:25,120 but all three albums 556 00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:28,960 were my go-to things when i was 15 16 17 557 00:26:33,029 --> 00:26:31,039 years old 558 00:26:36,230 --> 00:26:33,039 today i cranked them all 559 00:26:39,669 --> 00:26:36,240 i did i did really loud 560 00:26:42,710 --> 00:26:39,679 and i found myself 561 00:26:47,110 --> 00:26:44,470 singing 562 00:26:48,390 --> 00:26:47,120 i was waving my arms 563 00:26:51,269 --> 00:26:48,400 i was 564 00:26:54,149 --> 00:26:51,279 i even did a little dancing 565 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:54,159 all with no self-control 566 00:26:57,990 --> 00:26:55,840 it just happened 567 00:27:00,390 --> 00:26:58,000 and it was good 568 00:27:01,990 --> 00:27:00,400 all of it 569 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:02,000 yeppers 570 00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:10,149 this is clinical and lab proof 571 00:27:14,789 --> 00:27:12,960 of what i read last week case closed all 572 00:27:16,149 --> 00:27:14,799 right now so 573 00:27:17,750 --> 00:27:16,159 what does all of this have to do with 574 00:27:18,870 --> 00:27:17,760 ufos 575 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:18,880 i know that's what you're asking 576 00:27:23,830 --> 00:27:21,440 yourself well everything actually 577 00:27:25,590 --> 00:27:23,840 let me explain stay with me 578 00:27:28,389 --> 00:27:25,600 a couple of weeks ago 579 00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:28,399 i mentioned on the show that i watched 580 00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,880 some old ufo documentaries lately and i 581 00:27:37,110 --> 00:27:33,600 do it often specifically 582 00:27:38,710 --> 00:27:37,120 ufos past present and future narrated by 583 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:38,720 rod serling 584 00:27:43,269 --> 00:27:40,960 after that show i got an email from 585 00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,279 someone that stated pretty much 586 00:27:49,750 --> 00:27:45,279 something like this quote 587 00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:49,760 any and all old ufo documentaries suck 588 00:27:54,950 --> 00:27:51,360 end quote 589 00:27:57,430 --> 00:27:54,960 yeah well maybe i'm old and cranky but 590 00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:57,440 it's those old documentaries that i 591 00:28:01,669 --> 00:27:59,200 enjoy the most 592 00:28:03,590 --> 00:28:01,679 you know and there's great stuff today 593 00:28:05,909 --> 00:28:03,600 i'm not saying that don't get me wrong 594 00:28:07,669 --> 00:28:05,919 and i'm involved with many of them in in 595 00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:07,679 some capacity but 596 00:28:13,590 --> 00:28:10,640 every time i watch chariots of the gods 597 00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:13,600 it takes me to a special place for sure 598 00:28:17,190 --> 00:28:14,480 but 599 00:28:20,549 --> 00:28:17,200 there is a vintage style to them that 600 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:20,559 today seems almost innocent 601 00:28:25,830 --> 00:28:23,279 you know and they're all so sincere 602 00:28:29,430 --> 00:28:25,840 they're all so serious 603 00:28:31,909 --> 00:28:29,440 and yes a little bit intense 604 00:28:33,510 --> 00:28:31,919 i mean if you want to watch a real ufo 605 00:28:34,950 --> 00:28:33,520 documentary 606 00:28:36,389 --> 00:28:34,960 you've got to check out 607 00:28:38,710 --> 00:28:36,399 ufo 608 00:28:40,789 --> 00:28:38,720 it's from 1956. 609 00:28:42,710 --> 00:28:40,799 it's also under another title if you 610 00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:42,720 can't find it under ufo it's called 611 00:28:49,590 --> 00:28:45,440 unidentified flying objects the true 612 00:28:51,830 --> 00:28:49,600 story of flying saucers 1956 613 00:28:53,750 --> 00:28:51,840 it's a semi documentary about the 614 00:28:56,870 --> 00:28:53,760 development of the ufo phenomenon in the 615 00:28:58,789 --> 00:28:56,880 united states clips from the documentary 616 00:29:00,630 --> 00:28:58,799 have been used 617 00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,640 in other ufo documentaries and 618 00:29:05,110 --> 00:29:03,039 television episodes related to ufos ever 619 00:29:06,389 --> 00:29:05,120 since because it was that good 620 00:29:10,389 --> 00:29:06,399 and it's part 621 00:29:11,909 --> 00:29:10,399 recreation right with actors and and 622 00:29:14,549 --> 00:29:11,919 with the combination of actual 623 00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:14,559 documentary footage right okay and to 624 00:29:18,230 --> 00:29:15,840 this day 625 00:29:21,190 --> 00:29:18,240 almost 70 years later it's one of the 626 00:29:23,110 --> 00:29:21,200 best films on the subject and it's also 627 00:29:25,750 --> 00:29:23,120 a time capsule 628 00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:25,760 it was made just eight years after 629 00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:28,159 roswell and it's got some of the best 630 00:29:34,230 --> 00:29:30,320 information you will ever get on the 631 00:29:35,669 --> 00:29:34,240 1952 washington dc ufo flap 632 00:29:37,190 --> 00:29:35,679 er 633 00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:37,200 event 634 00:29:43,830 --> 00:29:39,760 now i wasn't around in 1956 to see it in 635 00:29:45,990 --> 00:29:43,840 theaters but i did see them all on tv 636 00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:46,000 when i was in high school 637 00:29:52,149 --> 00:29:49,679 and that is probably why these old ufo 638 00:29:52,950 --> 00:29:52,159 documentaries have stuck with me 639 00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:52,960 and 640 00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:55,279 they mean so much after all these years 641 00:29:58,710 --> 00:29:56,799 and back then 642 00:30:01,269 --> 00:29:58,720 after the docs were over 643 00:30:03,750 --> 00:30:01,279 i probably followed them up with side 644 00:30:06,630 --> 00:30:03,760 one of sheik your booty 645 00:30:08,310 --> 00:30:06,640 so i've got that going for me 646 00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:08,320 yeah 647 00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:09,600 tonight's 648 00:30:14,310 --> 00:30:13,120 very special guest ryan sprague he has 649 00:30:16,950 --> 00:30:14,320 agreed 650 00:30:18,149 --> 00:30:16,960 to reschedule come back on this show 651 00:30:20,149 --> 00:30:18,159 tonight 652 00:30:23,110 --> 00:30:20,159 all right that's what we're gonna do 653 00:30:25,110 --> 00:30:23,120 ryan sprague is up next after this break 654 00:30:27,750 --> 00:30:25,120 we're gonna have another conversation or 655 00:30:30,549 --> 00:30:27,760 an attempt at a conversation about ufos 656 00:30:33,750 --> 00:30:30,559 and also tonight it's not fader night 657 00:30:35,110 --> 00:30:33,760 but tonight i'm going to give away two 658 00:30:37,990 --> 00:30:35,120 tickets 659 00:30:39,590 --> 00:30:38,000 to the pasadena film festival so you can 660 00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:39,600 come and hang out with us if you live in 661 00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,600 southern california you can make it then 662 00:30:46,789 --> 00:30:43,440 i want to hear from you we'll talk about 663 00:30:47,590 --> 00:30:46,799 that in a bit and uh we will give away 664 00:30:48,630 --> 00:30:47,600 two 665 00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,640 tickets 666 00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,799 all right all right so let me get out of 667 00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:52,799 here let me get to this break and when i 668 00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:53,840 come back 669 00:31:00,470 --> 00:30:56,880 it's ryan sprague this is fade to black 670 00:31:02,870 --> 00:31:00,480 on the game changer network and k g r a 671 00:31:05,350 --> 00:31:02,880 the planet race hobbes i'm you know 672 00:31:07,669 --> 00:31:05,360 jimmy church follow me on twitter at j 673 00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:07,679 church radio you can follow ryan he's 674 00:31:13,509 --> 00:31:10,240 all over twitter right 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sprague agreed to grace us 778 00:36:37,270 --> 00:36:35,040 i mean he didn't have to he could have 779 00:36:41,270 --> 00:36:37,280 just went you know what church you had 780 00:36:43,190 --> 00:36:41,280 one crack man you blew it but he's back 781 00:36:45,829 --> 00:36:43,200 he's back he's back we're gonna we're 782 00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:45,839 gonna we're gonna try this once again 783 00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:49,359 host author somewhere in the skies 784 00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:51,119 joining us for a full night of all 785 00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,320 things ufo some say uap his generation's 786 00:36:59,589 --> 00:36:56,640 gonna say uap all night tonight i can 787 00:37:01,670 --> 00:36:59,599 deal with it i just say it's all cool 788 00:37:04,470 --> 00:37:01,680 and maybe we'll find out what his new 789 00:37:06,550 --> 00:37:04,480 book is about i'm gonna try to pull that 790 00:37:08,790 --> 00:37:06,560 out of him he is a lead investigator and 791 00:37:11,030 --> 00:37:08,800 co-host of the cw television series 792 00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,040 mysteries decoded he is the author of 793 00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:12,960 somewhere in the skies a human approach 794 00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:15,440 to the ufo phenomenon and is the creator 795 00:37:19,829 --> 00:37:17,440 and host of the somewhere in sky 796 00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:19,839 somewhere in the skies podcast he's a 797 00:37:24,550 --> 00:37:22,000 contributing writer for the debrief open 798 00:37:26,790 --> 00:37:24,560 minds magazine rogue planet and medium 799 00:37:29,190 --> 00:37:26,800 what else does he do he does a lot 800 00:37:30,790 --> 00:37:29,200 speaking on the ufo topic he has been 801 00:37:34,710 --> 00:37:30,800 featured in the acclaimed documentary 802 00:37:38,230 --> 00:37:34,720 series on the trail of ufos and also on 803 00:37:40,150 --> 00:37:38,240 things like abc news fox news 7 news 804 00:37:42,230 --> 00:37:40,160 australia i haven't done any of those 805 00:37:44,230 --> 00:37:42,240 things and he's done it all before the 806 00:37:45,190 --> 00:37:44,240 age of like 16. 807 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,200 all right 808 00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:47,520 now he has consulted and been featured 809 00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:51,119 in newsweek the new york post and vice 810 00:37:54,870 --> 00:37:53,280 news i've pumped him up enough i need to 811 00:37:56,950 --> 00:37:54,880 welcome him back 812 00:37:59,270 --> 00:37:56,960 to fade to black ryan sprague ryan good 813 00:38:01,270 --> 00:37:59,280 evening my man how you doing 814 00:38:03,109 --> 00:38:01,280 what's up brother that hey that's a lot 815 00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:03,119 of pressure yeah 816 00:38:07,349 --> 00:38:04,960 hopefully i can live up to that bio that 817 00:38:10,069 --> 00:38:07,359 i've definitely exaggerated yes that's 818 00:38:12,870 --> 00:38:10,079 okay man we all do and uh so you were 819 00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:12,880 out today uh shooting what were you 820 00:38:18,310 --> 00:38:15,359 shooting can you talk about it 821 00:38:19,829 --> 00:38:18,320 uh yeah i think i can uh at least um i 822 00:38:21,430 --> 00:38:19,839 can give you a hint i know it's 823 00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:21,440 something you've done 824 00:38:27,190 --> 00:38:24,400 before okay and um i'm not saying what 825 00:38:29,349 --> 00:38:27,200 the show is but it's that show okay i 826 00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:29,359 don't know if that isn't enough man 827 00:38:33,510 --> 00:38:31,280 that's a lot of show okay all right fair 828 00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:33,520 enough did you have fun 829 00:38:37,829 --> 00:38:36,240 i did look i um i've been out of work 830 00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:37,839 here in new york city for almost a year 831 00:38:42,790 --> 00:38:39,920 and a half now i work on broadway you 832 00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:42,800 know at the uh the live shows and um 833 00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:45,599 it's been hard to find purpose man other 834 00:38:51,190 --> 00:38:48,800 than ufos my whole other half of my life 835 00:38:53,910 --> 00:38:51,200 was gone in an instant like many other 836 00:38:56,950 --> 00:38:53,920 people in the world so um it was good to 837 00:38:58,950 --> 00:38:56,960 get back out there man and talk ufos and 838 00:39:01,349 --> 00:38:58,960 and uh really stretch those muscles 839 00:39:03,750 --> 00:39:01,359 again and um and good to see that 840 00:39:06,150 --> 00:39:03,760 television is coming back all these 841 00:39:08,069 --> 00:39:06,160 new shows coming out and docs you know 842 00:39:10,470 --> 00:39:08,079 jj abrams and 843 00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:10,480 australia one yeah that's amazing yeah 844 00:39:14,710 --> 00:39:12,480 no doubt about it um 845 00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,720 what's uh what's manhattan like is it 846 00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,280 coming back to life 847 00:39:22,950 --> 00:39:19,440 yeah i mean except you know yesterday we 848 00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:22,960 had a torrential downpour flooding here 849 00:39:29,109 --> 00:39:26,320 which was insane i've never seen it i 850 00:39:31,510 --> 00:39:29,119 saw today in the news 900 people rescued 851 00:39:33,190 --> 00:39:31,520 from the subways 852 00:39:35,349 --> 00:39:33,200 that does not surprise me and i don't 853 00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,359 mean to laugh but i've been in those 854 00:39:39,670 --> 00:39:37,119 subways when it's gotten pretty rough 855 00:39:41,430 --> 00:39:39,680 but some of the videos i saw were pretty 856 00:39:43,510 --> 00:39:41,440 scary and you know we just don't have 857 00:39:46,870 --> 00:39:43,520 the infrastructure here for weather 858 00:39:49,030 --> 00:39:46,880 conditions like that so um i'm i hope 859 00:39:51,510 --> 00:39:49,040 everyone's all right out there but um 860 00:39:53,910 --> 00:39:51,520 yes manhattan new york city is coming 861 00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:53,920 back to life um you know all the 862 00:39:59,030 --> 00:39:56,079 concerts are coming back broadway's 863 00:40:01,030 --> 00:39:59,040 coming back slowly but surely so i'm i'm 864 00:40:03,589 --> 00:40:01,040 looking forward to that like like you 865 00:40:06,230 --> 00:40:03,599 know i'm a playwright when i'm not doing 866 00:40:09,349 --> 00:40:06,240 the ufo things yeah yep yep yeah 867 00:40:11,829 --> 00:40:09,359 now um one of my favorite uh 868 00:40:14,309 --> 00:40:11,839 things to do in the world 869 00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:14,319 is is go to new york and 870 00:40:18,230 --> 00:40:16,079 and i talk about it often we don't have 871 00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:18,240 to do that now but 872 00:40:22,150 --> 00:40:19,119 um 873 00:40:24,470 --> 00:40:22,160 uh every trip to new york i do the same 874 00:40:26,950 --> 00:40:24,480 thing it doesn't matter 875 00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:26,960 what uh time it is 876 00:40:31,270 --> 00:40:29,359 what part of the city i'm you know what 877 00:40:32,230 --> 00:40:31,280 hotel i'm checking into it doesn't 878 00:40:34,710 --> 00:40:32,240 matter 879 00:40:37,190 --> 00:40:34,720 i go straight to times square 880 00:40:39,670 --> 00:40:37,200 and get a hot dog that's what i do i it 881 00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:39,680 doesn't matter that's you know and 882 00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:43,520 and and i love it uh down there and 883 00:40:49,270 --> 00:40:47,119 um uh right before the pandemic 884 00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:49,280 uh times square 885 00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:51,200 was like peaked out 886 00:40:54,309 --> 00:40:53,359 there was a half a million people down 887 00:40:56,470 --> 00:40:54,319 there 888 00:40:58,710 --> 00:40:56,480 just packed and i've gone back and 889 00:41:01,190 --> 00:40:58,720 looked at my photograph what what's time 890 00:41:04,870 --> 00:41:01,200 square like is it is that coming back to 891 00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:04,880 life or is it is it empty 892 00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:06,960 you know i would say about a month ago i 893 00:41:11,670 --> 00:41:09,280 went into manhattan i had to do some 894 00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:11,680 business there and uh i walked through 895 00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,160 times square and i took a video threw it 896 00:41:17,750 --> 00:41:16,319 up on instagram and it was scary man it 897 00:41:19,829 --> 00:41:17,760 was like um 898 00:41:21,829 --> 00:41:19,839 you remember that scene in vanilla sky 899 00:41:24,390 --> 00:41:21,839 the tom cruise movie where he wakes up 900 00:41:27,190 --> 00:41:24,400 and new york city's completely empty and 901 00:41:29,349 --> 00:41:27,200 desolate that's what it was and it's 902 00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:29,359 just that's not what you expect here 903 00:41:33,510 --> 00:41:30,960 there's the minute you get into times 904 00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:33,520 square in new york city the energy just 905 00:41:38,150 --> 00:41:35,839 changes and you can feel it it's in the 906 00:41:40,630 --> 00:41:38,160 electricity it's in the people from all 907 00:41:42,630 --> 00:41:40,640 over the world but that day it felt like 908 00:41:45,430 --> 00:41:42,640 it took me like an hour to walk three 909 00:41:49,270 --> 00:41:45,440 blocks because my energy was just down 910 00:41:50,630 --> 00:41:49,280 so much so um very surreal will never 911 00:41:53,030 --> 00:41:50,640 ever see 912 00:41:55,270 --> 00:41:53,040 new york city like it was this past year 913 00:41:57,190 --> 00:41:55,280 ever again i don't think i hope not at 914 00:42:00,069 --> 00:41:57,200 least but um yeah it was a sight to 915 00:42:01,990 --> 00:42:00,079 behold man it really makes you uh 916 00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:02,000 go back in your shoes and put things 917 00:42:05,589 --> 00:42:04,160 into perspective of how uh how the 918 00:42:09,589 --> 00:42:05,599 world's changed in the past couple of 919 00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:09,599 years yep it certainly has man it's uh 920 00:42:12,550 --> 00:42:11,200 we've got a bunch of things that are 921 00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:12,560 starting to come up 922 00:42:18,069 --> 00:42:15,040 uh not only with the ufo community but 923 00:42:21,109 --> 00:42:18,079 just whatever uh sporting events and 924 00:42:23,510 --> 00:42:21,119 and and concerts and theaters and and 925 00:42:25,750 --> 00:42:23,520 and restaurants where it's starting to 926 00:42:26,790 --> 00:42:25,760 come and then boom we've got this other 927 00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:26,800 wave 928 00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:30,079 and you know the the mask mandates here 929 00:42:32,790 --> 00:42:31,760 in california were lifted now they're 930 00:42:33,589 --> 00:42:32,800 back 931 00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:33,599 and 932 00:42:41,270 --> 00:42:38,160 these events that are coming up 933 00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,280 and i think that by and large i think 934 00:42:45,750 --> 00:42:43,280 all of us we can't do this forever 935 00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:45,760 that's it we can't we can't do this 936 00:42:48,710 --> 00:42:46,720 forever 937 00:42:50,230 --> 00:42:48,720 and no matter what we're gonna put this 938 00:42:51,030 --> 00:42:50,240 thing back to normal 939 00:42:54,870 --> 00:42:51,040 and 940 00:42:55,910 --> 00:42:54,880 through this but uh two years is enough 941 00:42:58,790 --> 00:42:55,920 it's enough 942 00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:58,800 you know i thought one year yeah yeah i 943 00:43:03,109 --> 00:43:00,800 thought one year was gonna be 944 00:43:05,190 --> 00:43:03,119 uh the thing i never had any idea that 945 00:43:07,589 --> 00:43:05,200 we would cruise through uh here we are 946 00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:07,599 in september of 2021 947 00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:10,160 still dealing with this and it's a mess 948 00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:13,359 okay now um moving on 949 00:43:17,990 --> 00:43:16,319 you posted uh 950 00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:18,000 and i i was so happy you did this 951 00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:19,760 because i knew that i'd be able to drill 952 00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:23,280 you on this you posted okay man i'm 953 00:43:27,589 --> 00:43:24,800 i'm writing 954 00:43:31,270 --> 00:43:27,599 i'm i'm i'm i'm throwing down pages in 955 00:43:33,030 --> 00:43:31,280 the new book and you left it at that 956 00:43:35,829 --> 00:43:33,040 all right so what what's the deal man 957 00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:35,839 what's the book gonna be about 958 00:43:39,910 --> 00:43:37,680 the new one yeah well oh yeah i 959 00:43:42,550 --> 00:43:39,920 appreciate you asking that because it it 960 00:43:44,069 --> 00:43:42,560 um it drives me to write you know and 961 00:43:45,829 --> 00:43:44,079 and that's why i do things like that 962 00:43:47,750 --> 00:43:45,839 those little teases i know a lot of 963 00:43:50,150 --> 00:43:47,760 people do that in that you know the 964 00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,160 entertainment biz and whatnot but um 965 00:43:54,230 --> 00:43:52,640 it's fun does truly you know put that 966 00:43:56,950 --> 00:43:54,240 pressure on me to actually produce 967 00:43:59,430 --> 00:43:56,960 something and i i wish more people would 968 00:44:01,190 --> 00:43:59,440 do that instead of just you know 969 00:44:03,030 --> 00:44:01,200 commenting on things all the time i 970 00:44:04,950 --> 00:44:03,040 always tell them well then do something 971 00:44:07,270 --> 00:44:04,960 do something about it and that's what i 972 00:44:09,349 --> 00:44:07,280 wanted to do with this new book so uh 973 00:44:10,230 --> 00:44:09,359 for any of your your listeners who don't 974 00:44:12,470 --> 00:44:10,240 know i 975 00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,480 i wrote two books which were uh first 976 00:44:16,150 --> 00:44:14,720 and second edition where i went around 977 00:44:17,910 --> 00:44:16,160 the country and interviewed people in 978 00:44:19,750 --> 00:44:17,920 all walks of life about their ufo 979 00:44:21,829 --> 00:44:19,760 experiences you know everything from a 980 00:44:24,630 --> 00:44:21,839 light in the sky up to claimed 981 00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:24,640 abductions close encounters and followed 982 00:44:29,910 --> 00:44:27,680 them you know and saw how they lived 983 00:44:31,910 --> 00:44:29,920 their lives after these 984 00:44:33,910 --> 00:44:31,920 pretty profound things happened to them 985 00:44:35,670 --> 00:44:33,920 what did their families think about it 986 00:44:37,190 --> 00:44:35,680 you know their kids got to go to school 987 00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:37,200 and they saw 988 00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:38,800 you know that their dad was on the news 989 00:44:44,309 --> 00:44:41,839 saying he was uh abducted by aliens like 990 00:44:46,069 --> 00:44:44,319 how does that change the dynamic of 991 00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:46,079 people and their beliefs and this that 992 00:44:50,069 --> 00:44:47,920 this that so i went on a two-year 993 00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:50,079 journey to try to find answers and make 994 00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:51,920 connections and that was my first two 995 00:44:56,870 --> 00:44:54,400 books somewhere in the skies and i 996 00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,880 thought okay i covered the people who've 997 00:45:01,910 --> 00:44:59,040 had the experiences but what about those 998 00:45:04,069 --> 00:45:01,920 who have dedicated their lives to 999 00:45:06,150 --> 00:45:04,079 researching it investigating it like 1000 00:45:08,069 --> 00:45:06,160 that's a whole other ball game and you 1001 00:45:11,109 --> 00:45:08,079 know a lot of researchers in the ufo 1002 00:45:12,950 --> 00:45:11,119 field or paranormal supernatural they 1003 00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:12,960 had an experience and that what that's 1004 00:45:17,349 --> 00:45:14,880 what got him into it but a lot of people 1005 00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:17,359 haven't either so that fascinated me too 1006 00:45:21,750 --> 00:45:19,839 like what draws people to these things 1007 00:45:23,270 --> 00:45:21,760 if they haven't had an experience 1008 00:45:25,829 --> 00:45:23,280 themselves so 1009 00:45:28,550 --> 00:45:25,839 this past year or so um i haven't been 1010 00:45:30,550 --> 00:45:28,560 able to travel as much obviously but i 1011 00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,560 have reached out to 1012 00:45:35,829 --> 00:45:32,720 handfuls of people and i'm going to 1013 00:45:38,230 --> 00:45:35,839 write another book about uh those who 1014 00:45:40,470 --> 00:45:38,240 research these things and why 1015 00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,480 and what led them to the point where 1016 00:45:43,670 --> 00:45:42,480 they are today and ultimately what could 1017 00:45:45,430 --> 00:45:43,680 that tell us 1018 00:45:47,750 --> 00:45:45,440 about these phenomena we're dealing with 1019 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:47,760 and the people who decide to dedicate 1020 00:45:51,910 --> 00:45:50,480 their lives to it so you know it's it's 1021 00:45:54,470 --> 00:45:51,920 going to be really interesting it's 1022 00:45:56,630 --> 00:45:54,480 really putting a microscope on people 1023 00:45:58,309 --> 00:45:56,640 you know the the researchers that you 1024 00:46:01,430 --> 00:45:58,319 have on your show or 1025 00:46:03,910 --> 00:46:01,440 the lou elizondos the chris mellons like 1026 00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:03,920 these people who 1027 00:46:09,670 --> 00:46:06,960 have now become such a big part of this 1028 00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,680 community and this topic and uh what led 1029 00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,280 them to that point and where might it 1030 00:46:15,829 --> 00:46:12,960 take us after that 1031 00:46:17,750 --> 00:46:15,839 well that's going to be a big book 1032 00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:17,760 you've got you've got a problem in front 1033 00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:18,960 of you 1034 00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,520 and that is you can't have everybody in 1035 00:46:30,470 --> 00:46:22,720 it 1036 00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:30,480 be you know yay thick so now you've got 1037 00:46:34,790 --> 00:46:32,480 to eliminate 1038 00:46:36,550 --> 00:46:34,800 yeah it's hard man yeah man in the 1039 00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:36,560 playwriting world we call that killing 1040 00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:38,480 your babies like 1041 00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:40,800 everything's so precious 1042 00:46:45,190 --> 00:46:42,880 and you know these people trust you with 1043 00:46:47,349 --> 00:46:45,200 their stories and that means a lot to me 1044 00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:47,359 so with my first two books i had to do 1045 00:46:51,589 --> 00:46:49,839 the same thing i had to cut out hundreds 1046 00:46:53,190 --> 00:46:51,599 yeah you got to do it 1047 00:46:55,109 --> 00:46:53,200 there's going to be some researcher out 1048 00:46:57,190 --> 00:46:55,119 there it's going to be richard dolan oh 1049 00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:57,200 man ryan sprague's new book is out man 1050 00:47:01,190 --> 00:46:59,040 uh he interviewed me for this it's going 1051 00:47:04,069 --> 00:47:01,200 to be great what 1052 00:47:06,790 --> 00:47:04,079 i'm not in here 1053 00:47:09,270 --> 00:47:06,800 every researcher does that man trust me 1054 00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:09,280 when a ufo book comes out we go straight 1055 00:47:11,910 --> 00:47:10,800 to the acknowledgement 1056 00:47:14,069 --> 00:47:11,920 where's my name where's my name yeah 1057 00:47:15,430 --> 00:47:14,079 yeah you gotta do it gotta do it and uh 1058 00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,440 yeah you're gonna get that phone call 1059 00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:17,440 from dolan richard i'm letting you know 1060 00:47:23,109 --> 00:47:20,559 now uh ed it's just editing man it's 1061 00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:23,119 it's nothing personal it's just editing 1062 00:47:28,790 --> 00:47:25,599 the business it's uh yeah you've got a 1063 00:47:30,710 --> 00:47:28,800 i'm not envious of of of that position 1064 00:47:32,630 --> 00:47:30,720 because you want to 1065 00:47:34,710 --> 00:47:32,640 uh interview as many as possible you 1066 00:47:36,150 --> 00:47:34,720 want to have more information and more 1067 00:47:37,510 --> 00:47:36,160 stuff there that can make it into the 1068 00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:37,520 book because you want the best of the 1069 00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,800 best and then 1070 00:47:44,230 --> 00:47:40,880 some things have to hit the cutting room 1071 00:47:46,710 --> 00:47:44,240 floor um but i look forward to it uh so 1072 00:47:48,150 --> 00:47:46,720 good luck with that uh you've got uh 1073 00:47:50,870 --> 00:47:48,160 you've got a lot of it's you know what 1074 00:47:53,670 --> 00:47:50,880 though this is the thing 1075 00:47:55,430 --> 00:47:53,680 you're not going to have writer's block 1076 00:47:57,270 --> 00:47:55,440 right you're you're not going to have 1077 00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:57,280 that you've you've got everything at 1078 00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,599 your disposal that's that's pretty good 1079 00:48:03,910 --> 00:48:01,040 it's pretty good the book's going to get 1080 00:48:05,589 --> 00:48:03,920 done and i look forward to it if it's 1081 00:48:06,710 --> 00:48:05,599 anywhere near as close as somewhere in 1082 00:48:08,470 --> 00:48:06,720 the skies 1083 00:48:11,430 --> 00:48:08,480 uh it's going to be great 1084 00:48:14,549 --> 00:48:11,440 um now let's um let's uh let's change 1085 00:48:15,589 --> 00:48:14,559 gears um a little bit if we can 1086 00:48:17,510 --> 00:48:15,599 um 1087 00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:17,520 i want to go back 1088 00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:21,520 because uh we have everything that we 1089 00:48:28,309 --> 00:48:25,280 need to talk to tonight about the moment 1090 00:48:31,109 --> 00:48:28,319 but there's a part of your life that you 1091 00:48:34,710 --> 00:48:31,119 don't talk about a whole lot first off 1092 00:48:39,750 --> 00:48:34,720 it's a while ago but i was there 1093 00:48:41,670 --> 00:48:39,760 so let's let's back up to say 2013. 1094 00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:41,680 kgra 1095 00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:43,440 all right 1096 00:48:45,430 --> 00:48:44,319 and 1097 00:48:48,069 --> 00:48:45,440 uh 1098 00:48:50,710 --> 00:48:48,079 i'm on kgra 1099 00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:50,720 and i get introduced to this guy named 1100 00:48:55,510 --> 00:48:53,920 ryan sprague and and so who was who 1101 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:55,520 who's this cat 1102 00:48:58,790 --> 00:48:56,640 and you come on the air and i'm 1103 00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,800 listening to your voice i'm like he 1104 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:01,440 can't be but 15 years old 1105 00:49:05,750 --> 00:49:03,520 what's going on here 1106 00:49:08,230 --> 00:49:05,760 right and and 1107 00:49:10,230 --> 00:49:08,240 and i gave that a listen and i've been 1108 00:49:13,109 --> 00:49:10,240 following you ever since you know this 1109 00:49:15,270 --> 00:49:13,119 i've been a real stalker with you 1110 00:49:17,829 --> 00:49:15,280 but the point is 1111 00:49:21,030 --> 00:49:17,839 you got thrown onto a pretty big stage 1112 00:49:24,230 --> 00:49:21,040 back in 2013. you did 1113 00:49:26,150 --> 00:49:24,240 um and and for your generation that is 1114 00:49:27,910 --> 00:49:26,160 great and you were voice and that's one 1115 00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:27,920 of the things that you 1116 00:49:33,589 --> 00:49:30,400 expressed a lot back then that you were 1117 00:49:35,829 --> 00:49:33,599 representing uh your friends and and and 1118 00:49:36,710 --> 00:49:35,839 people in your group okay all that is 1119 00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:36,720 fine 1120 00:49:40,950 --> 00:49:37,520 how 1121 00:49:43,349 --> 00:49:40,960 and 1122 00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:43,359 i've got a follow-up question but but 1123 00:49:47,829 --> 00:49:46,960 how did that go down in 2013 1124 00:49:49,270 --> 00:49:47,839 so 1125 00:49:51,670 --> 00:49:49,280 i was 1126 00:49:54,470 --> 00:49:51,680 fairly new i would say to the 1127 00:49:55,430 --> 00:49:54,480 the ufo community how old are you but 1128 00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:55,440 how old 1129 00:49:59,030 --> 00:49:56,720 so that was 1130 00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:59,040 2013 1131 00:50:03,030 --> 00:50:00,640 yeah 1132 00:50:03,990 --> 00:50:03,040 probably i would have been in my early 1133 00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:04,000 20s 1134 00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:05,839 exactly okay 1135 00:50:09,990 --> 00:50:07,280 all right yeah 1136 00:50:11,430 --> 00:50:10,000 but i had been studying ufos jimmy since 1137 00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:11,440 i was 13. 1138 00:50:17,109 --> 00:50:14,880 um i i had a sighting i got obsessed 1139 00:50:18,870 --> 00:50:17,119 after that i started taking out books at 1140 00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:18,880 the library you know that old sort of 1141 00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:21,839 cliche that a lot of researchers did got 1142 00:50:26,390 --> 00:50:24,240 really into the topic went on aol the 1143 00:50:29,190 --> 00:50:26,400 chat forums all that stuff 1144 00:50:31,430 --> 00:50:29,200 and i kind of studied the topic um to 1145 00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,440 myself i remember trying to bring it up 1146 00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,000 to my friends you know i was a athlete 1147 00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,480 um baseball mostly and every time i 1148 00:50:41,109 --> 00:50:37,839 tried to bring up 1149 00:50:43,829 --> 00:50:41,119 conspiracies or ufos to my baseball team 1150 00:50:45,270 --> 00:50:43,839 they'd make fun of me and same with my 1151 00:50:47,109 --> 00:50:45,280 family you know whenever i talk about it 1152 00:50:48,870 --> 00:50:47,119 they'd be like ryan just calm down with 1153 00:50:51,190 --> 00:50:48,880 that stuff don't don't talk about it at 1154 00:50:53,510 --> 00:50:51,200 the next family gathering or anything 1155 00:50:57,910 --> 00:50:53,520 and i did i suppressed it like a lot of 1156 00:50:58,950 --> 00:50:57,920 people do and around 2013 i specifically 1157 00:51:02,950 --> 00:50:58,960 remember 1158 00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:02,960 uh hooking up with uh alejandro rojas 1159 00:51:07,430 --> 00:51:04,960 and and all those guys over at open 1160 00:51:10,150 --> 00:51:07,440 minds and um i was listening to their 1161 00:51:11,829 --> 00:51:10,160 podcast and i was again new to podcasts 1162 00:51:13,990 --> 00:51:11,839 at the time too so one of the first 1163 00:51:15,829 --> 00:51:14,000 shows i heard was alejandro and i was 1164 00:51:17,910 --> 00:51:15,839 like whoa this is pretty cool i didn't 1165 00:51:20,549 --> 00:51:17,920 know there were radio shows other than 1166 00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:20,559 coast to coast about ufos and then you 1167 00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:23,280 know ultimately that led to open minds 1168 00:51:29,109 --> 00:51:26,480 that led to your show that led to kgra 1169 00:51:31,510 --> 00:51:29,119 and i was like wow this is a whole radio 1170 00:51:34,630 --> 00:51:31,520 network dedicated to these things 1171 00:51:35,510 --> 00:51:34,640 and that was awesome and i remember 1172 00:51:37,430 --> 00:51:35,520 um 1173 00:51:39,990 --> 00:51:37,440 reaching out to a couple people chase 1174 00:51:42,710 --> 00:51:40,000 kletzke being one of the first actually 1175 00:51:44,710 --> 00:51:42,720 she had a show on kgra at the time and i 1176 00:51:46,630 --> 00:51:44,720 was like hey do you need like i'll do 1177 00:51:48,630 --> 00:51:46,640 anything like 1178 00:51:50,549 --> 00:51:48,640 you know i'll come to wherever you live 1179 00:51:52,630 --> 00:51:50,559 tennessee and and 1180 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,640 mop the floors of your studio what do i 1181 00:51:56,549 --> 00:51:54,640 got to do to like be a part of this and 1182 00:51:59,589 --> 00:51:56,559 same with open minds i started going to 1183 00:52:02,390 --> 00:51:59,599 their congress in arizona every year i 1184 00:52:05,030 --> 00:52:02,400 worked backstage um again whatever they 1185 00:52:07,829 --> 00:52:05,040 needed you know bob lazar needs a coffee 1186 00:52:10,710 --> 00:52:07,839 i'll go get it dolan you know needs to 1187 00:52:13,510 --> 00:52:10,720 needs to needs another water or another 1188 00:52:15,670 --> 00:52:13,520 microphone i'll go get it um so i did 1189 00:52:18,069 --> 00:52:15,680 that for like four or five years kind of 1190 00:52:20,950 --> 00:52:18,079 just staying in the background and um 1191 00:52:23,109 --> 00:52:20,960 then chase actually had me become like a 1192 00:52:25,030 --> 00:52:23,119 correspondent on her show i remember so 1193 00:52:26,710 --> 00:52:25,040 every time i went yeah i'd go to the 1194 00:52:29,430 --> 00:52:26,720 congress and i'd interview people for 1195 00:52:31,510 --> 00:52:29,440 her and that was that's kind of it man a 1196 00:52:34,470 --> 00:52:31,520 lot of people really helped me out and i 1197 00:52:36,150 --> 00:52:34,480 can say you know how however much we um 1198 00:52:38,390 --> 00:52:36,160 you know we have infighting in this 1199 00:52:41,670 --> 00:52:38,400 community everyone has that every 1200 00:52:43,109 --> 00:52:41,680 community every subculture has that but 1201 00:52:45,750 --> 00:52:43,119 i had a lot of support from the 1202 00:52:48,630 --> 00:52:45,760 beginning dolan uh chase kolecki 1203 00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:48,640 alejandro they were really all in my 1204 00:52:53,910 --> 00:52:51,440 corner helping me out and guiding me and 1205 00:52:56,309 --> 00:52:53,920 um i'll leave it with this my mentor is 1206 00:52:59,910 --> 00:52:56,319 peter robbins uh who also has a show on 1207 00:53:02,230 --> 00:52:59,920 kgra he lives in new york as well and 1208 00:53:04,069 --> 00:53:02,240 i read his book on rendelsham and 1209 00:53:06,150 --> 00:53:04,079 started meeting up with him in the city 1210 00:53:08,549 --> 00:53:06,160 you know we go to a diner have 1211 00:53:09,990 --> 00:53:08,559 have a pot of coffee and just talk ufos 1212 00:53:11,910 --> 00:53:10,000 and 1213 00:53:12,630 --> 00:53:11,920 theater as well he's a big theater guy 1214 00:53:14,950 --> 00:53:12,640 too 1215 00:53:17,190 --> 00:53:14,960 so um he became kind of my mentor in 1216 00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:17,200 this field and kind of led me on the 1217 00:53:19,910 --> 00:53:18,400 path of 1218 00:53:22,470 --> 00:53:19,920 you know this is where you should be 1219 00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:22,480 looking for information this isn't 1220 00:53:26,870 --> 00:53:24,480 too credible like don't look into that 1221 00:53:28,950 --> 00:53:26,880 and um that's what i'm trying to do now 1222 00:53:31,589 --> 00:53:28,960 for the younger people who've come after 1223 00:53:33,990 --> 00:53:31,599 me is to be like all right let me kind 1224 00:53:36,870 --> 00:53:34,000 of guide you here and there because i'm 1225 00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:36,880 no longer the young gun i was for so 1226 00:53:39,829 --> 00:53:37,760 long 1227 00:53:41,990 --> 00:53:39,839 and now i'm not and uh it's really put 1228 00:53:44,230 --> 00:53:42,000 things into perspective how how have 1229 00:53:48,230 --> 00:53:44,240 things changed 1230 00:53:49,349 --> 00:53:48,240 uh for you in in your outlook 1231 00:53:52,710 --> 00:53:49,359 when you 1232 00:53:54,150 --> 00:53:52,720 first started to study ufos and in the 1233 00:53:57,270 --> 00:53:54,160 phenomenon 1234 00:53:58,390 --> 00:53:57,280 what did you think was going on then 1235 00:54:00,790 --> 00:53:58,400 versus 1236 00:54:02,790 --> 00:54:00,800 what have you learned uh you know up to 1237 00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:02,800 today what do you think the phenomenon 1238 00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:04,960 is surely it's changed 1239 00:54:07,829 --> 00:54:05,839 so 1240 00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:07,839 you know how did you look at it back in 1241 00:54:12,309 --> 00:54:10,079 the beginning 1242 00:54:14,309 --> 00:54:12,319 i think when i first really got into it 1243 00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:14,319 you know back again when i was like 13 1244 00:54:21,190 --> 00:54:17,839 14 15 it was aliens visiting our planet 1245 00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:21,200 crashing in roswell crafted area 51 like 1246 00:54:27,349 --> 00:54:25,119 this was a being from zeta reticuli and 1247 00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,359 i think you know the more i got involved 1248 00:54:31,510 --> 00:54:29,760 and as time went on and i saw the other 1249 00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:31,520 theories being posed 1250 00:54:36,150 --> 00:54:33,359 i was like huh interesting and i would 1251 00:54:38,230 --> 00:54:36,160 kind of brush them away jimmy because um 1252 00:54:41,750 --> 00:54:38,240 you know you get tunnel vision in this 1253 00:54:43,990 --> 00:54:41,760 field sometimes and it's hard to try to 1254 00:54:46,069 --> 00:54:44,000 process everything that's coming at you 1255 00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:46,079 when you got one person saying the ufos 1256 00:54:51,430 --> 00:54:48,000 are interdimensional another says it's 1257 00:54:54,309 --> 00:54:51,440 an angel a demon um you know us for the 1258 00:54:56,309 --> 00:54:54,319 future and these are all viable theories 1259 00:54:58,549 --> 00:54:56,319 on what we could be dealing with and we 1260 00:55:00,789 --> 00:54:58,559 could be dealing with all of them and 1261 00:55:02,710 --> 00:55:00,799 you know when i was younger i that was a 1262 00:55:03,430 --> 00:55:02,720 little overwhelming but as time has gone 1263 00:55:06,069 --> 00:55:03,440 on 1264 00:55:07,670 --> 00:55:06,079 i think i've actually you know opened up 1265 00:55:11,190 --> 00:55:07,680 more and 1266 00:55:13,430 --> 00:55:11,200 i'm i'm all in on all of those because 1267 00:55:17,190 --> 00:55:13,440 nobody does have the answer i don't care 1268 00:55:20,549 --> 00:55:17,200 who you are what you preach nobody knows 1269 00:55:22,870 --> 00:55:20,559 what every single ufo is or has been or 1270 00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:22,880 will be and that's kind of where i'm at 1271 00:55:28,309 --> 00:55:25,920 now man is um i'm no closer to an answer 1272 00:55:31,190 --> 00:55:28,319 but i'm asking new questions and that's 1273 00:55:34,710 --> 00:55:31,200 what kind of keeps me going now uh and 1274 00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:34,720 how are you uh today trying to resolve 1275 00:55:39,349 --> 00:55:35,920 this 1276 00:55:42,069 --> 00:55:39,359 um certainly you have some ideas uh what 1277 00:55:44,630 --> 00:55:42,079 may be going on and when you do this for 1278 00:55:47,270 --> 00:55:44,640 a while like you've been doing 1279 00:55:49,030 --> 00:55:47,280 now you start to formulate your own 1280 00:55:50,309 --> 00:55:49,040 theories so 1281 00:55:52,549 --> 00:55:50,319 today 1282 00:55:54,150 --> 00:55:52,559 what do you think is going on i mean we 1283 00:55:55,589 --> 00:55:54,160 have the navy we have all of these 1284 00:55:56,710 --> 00:55:55,599 things i don't want to extend the 1285 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:56,720 question 1286 00:56:01,190 --> 00:56:00,000 but there is so many different things 1287 00:56:03,190 --> 00:56:01,200 and 1288 00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,200 you start to formulate 1289 00:56:06,789 --> 00:56:05,760 in your own mind what actually may be 1290 00:56:08,309 --> 00:56:06,799 happening 1291 00:56:11,589 --> 00:56:08,319 so if you've done that what do you think 1292 00:56:14,789 --> 00:56:11,599 is is some of the answers 1293 00:56:17,109 --> 00:56:14,799 yeah i i think we're dealing with 1294 00:56:19,109 --> 00:56:17,119 phenomena that is so 1295 00:56:20,950 --> 00:56:19,119 far more complex than anything we can 1296 00:56:23,030 --> 00:56:20,960 imagine and i know that sounds like a 1297 00:56:26,230 --> 00:56:23,040 passive answer to a lot of people you 1298 00:56:26,950 --> 00:56:26,240 know we do want to put things in um you 1299 00:56:29,270 --> 00:56:26,960 know 1300 00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,280 section them off it's this it's that but 1301 00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:31,920 i'll tell you man the more i look into 1302 00:56:36,950 --> 00:56:35,280 cases uh outside of the military like 1303 00:56:39,109 --> 00:56:36,960 yes i know we'll talk about that and 1304 00:56:41,030 --> 00:56:39,119 it's a huge part of the conversation 1305 00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:41,040 right now but for me 1306 00:56:46,069 --> 00:56:43,040 interviewing these people in all walks 1307 00:56:47,910 --> 00:56:46,079 of life that aren't in the military um 1308 00:56:50,390 --> 00:56:47,920 we're not getting the 1309 00:56:53,349 --> 00:56:50,400 the new york times version of the story 1310 00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,359 from these people around the world uh 1311 00:56:57,349 --> 00:56:55,520 that's why that's why i wanted to meet 1312 00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,359 people and look them in the eyes and 1313 00:57:01,589 --> 00:56:59,200 hear their story it's so much different 1314 00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:01,599 than hearing them on a show or or 1315 00:57:06,630 --> 00:57:03,760 reading about them in a book and that's 1316 00:57:08,230 --> 00:57:06,640 when the phenomena just became 1317 00:57:09,829 --> 00:57:08,240 so strange to me 1318 00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:09,839 and so 1319 00:57:16,390 --> 00:57:10,799 like 1320 00:57:18,950 --> 00:57:16,400 just messy 1321 00:57:21,349 --> 00:57:18,960 and yeah we're creatures of pattern we 1322 00:57:23,190 --> 00:57:21,359 want to find patterns to things because 1323 00:57:26,150 --> 00:57:23,200 they make sense of the world but 1324 00:57:28,309 --> 00:57:26,160 these f these phenomena have never ever 1325 00:57:31,270 --> 00:57:28,319 done that it never 1326 00:57:33,430 --> 00:57:31,280 falls into patterns barely i mean there 1327 00:57:35,030 --> 00:57:33,440 are researchers out there who do find 1328 00:57:37,190 --> 00:57:35,040 patterns and i give them all the respect 1329 00:57:40,150 --> 00:57:37,200 in the world but um it's a very 1330 00:57:42,549 --> 00:57:40,160 rebellious phenomena and i don't think 1331 00:57:44,630 --> 00:57:42,559 uh it does want to be figured out and we 1332 00:57:46,549 --> 00:57:44,640 might never figure it out but i i've 1333 00:57:48,150 --> 00:57:46,559 made peace with that to be completely 1334 00:57:50,870 --> 00:57:48,160 honest i don't know if i'm ever going to 1335 00:57:54,470 --> 00:57:50,880 know what ufos truly are or represent 1336 00:57:55,829 --> 00:57:54,480 but um this journey's been amazing and i 1337 00:57:56,870 --> 00:57:55,839 i really feel like it's only just 1338 00:57:59,270 --> 00:57:56,880 beginning 1339 00:58:01,349 --> 00:57:59,280 the one of the things that 1340 00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:01,359 i've been able to do 1341 00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:04,480 to keep myself from going insane 1342 00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:06,000 in this subject 1343 00:58:10,390 --> 00:58:09,280 is the more that i look at just pure 1344 00:58:12,230 --> 00:58:10,400 numbers 1345 00:58:15,349 --> 00:58:12,240 and i talk about this all the time and i 1346 00:58:17,670 --> 00:58:15,359 want people to just get this drilled 1347 00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:17,680 you know inside of their frontal lobes 1348 00:58:23,270 --> 00:58:20,000 and and and try to understand the the 1349 00:58:26,390 --> 00:58:23,280 ginormity of what we're talking about 1350 00:58:27,430 --> 00:58:26,400 that they're one of the reasons why for 1351 00:58:30,710 --> 00:58:27,440 me 1352 00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,720 none of these events has been 1353 00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:32,880 repetitive 1354 00:58:35,510 --> 00:58:34,000 right 1355 00:58:37,829 --> 00:58:35,520 the same type of crap the same type of 1356 00:58:39,829 --> 00:58:37,839 thing you know uh we can drive around in 1357 00:58:41,910 --> 00:58:39,839 the streets and say oh you know that's a 1358 00:58:44,230 --> 00:58:41,920 that's that's a volkswagen you know 1359 00:58:47,190 --> 00:58:44,240 that's that's a chevrolet that's a 1360 00:58:49,510 --> 00:58:47,200 that's a bentley and and we know right 1361 00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:49,520 and there are thousands of 1362 00:58:53,349 --> 00:58:51,599 of these types of cars on the streets 1363 00:58:55,030 --> 00:58:53,359 every single day in your city and and 1364 00:58:58,950 --> 00:58:55,040 you see repetitive we don't see that 1365 00:59:01,270 --> 00:58:58,960 with ufos we you know we see sort of 1366 00:59:02,470 --> 00:59:01,280 classification but we don't 1367 00:59:06,069 --> 00:59:02,480 why 1368 00:59:09,030 --> 00:59:06,079 there must be and there has to be 1369 00:59:10,710 --> 00:59:09,040 thousands of civilizations that are 1370 00:59:14,150 --> 00:59:10,720 visiting this planet 1371 00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:14,160 and they're not doing it you know 1372 00:59:19,190 --> 00:59:16,799 every single day from the same planet 1373 00:59:22,309 --> 00:59:19,200 you know for for decades we're not 1374 00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:22,319 seeing that they do one trip by 1375 00:59:26,710 --> 00:59:24,640 and they move on to the next planet and 1376 00:59:28,950 --> 00:59:26,720 then there's thousands of others that 1377 00:59:30,710 --> 00:59:28,960 are coming by and they have their own 1378 00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:30,720 technology they have their own ships 1379 00:59:33,670 --> 00:59:31,920 they have their own thing they have 1380 00:59:36,549 --> 00:59:33,680 their own way of getting here they have 1381 00:59:39,109 --> 00:59:36,559 their own look they have they and and 1382 00:59:40,549 --> 00:59:39,119 that to me is where i keep myself from 1383 00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:40,559 going crazy 1384 00:59:44,870 --> 00:59:43,599 you know and if i've if i've resolved 1385 00:59:47,670 --> 00:59:44,880 one thing 1386 00:59:51,270 --> 00:59:47,680 it's that and i'm and that's where i 1387 00:59:53,910 --> 00:59:51,280 stay comfortable where i'm i'm okay with 1388 00:59:55,829 --> 00:59:53,920 that where it's it's not 1389 00:59:58,630 --> 00:59:55,839 you know what i mean and i i don't want 1390 01:00:00,390 --> 00:59:58,640 it to to to get strange 1391 01:00:01,990 --> 01:00:00,400 in my head because i don't understand 1392 01:00:03,750 --> 01:00:02,000 what's going on 1393 01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:03,760 and and that and that's that's where i 1394 01:00:08,069 --> 01:00:06,000 go that's where i go i i 1395 01:00:10,630 --> 01:00:08,079 i get it jimmy and i'll i'll make this 1396 01:00:12,630 --> 01:00:10,640 story quick but i always go back to um 1397 01:00:16,069 --> 01:00:12,640 jacques valley's work with the control 1398 01:00:18,230 --> 01:00:16,079 system like whatever these phenomena are 1399 01:00:21,510 --> 01:00:18,240 they have the ability to control 1400 01:00:23,030 --> 01:00:21,520 perception emotion memory uh at least 1401 01:00:25,510 --> 01:00:23,040 from the research i've done and the 1402 01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:25,520 people i've talked to um but one story 1403 01:00:29,670 --> 01:00:27,200 sticks out to me and like i said i'll 1404 01:00:32,470 --> 01:00:29,680 make it brief but it was a woman patty 1405 01:00:34,710 --> 01:00:32,480 she lived in michigan i i've interviewed 1406 01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:34,720 her on several occasions and she saw a 1407 01:00:39,670 --> 01:00:37,680 triangular formation uh 1408 01:00:42,309 --> 01:00:39,680 craft over her home 1409 01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:42,319 and um i'm gonna say the early 2000's 1410 01:00:45,990 --> 01:00:43,359 this was 1411 01:00:48,789 --> 01:00:46,000 and she she's out there it's hovering 1412 01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:48,799 above her it's solid black and it's 1413 01:00:52,789 --> 01:00:50,960 shining a white light down she calls for 1414 01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:52,799 a daughter to come outside and see this 1415 01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:54,960 daughter runs out and the daughter sees 1416 01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:56,960 it too and they're both looking up at 1417 01:01:02,230 --> 01:00:59,760 this triangular craft and the mother is 1418 01:01:04,549 --> 01:01:02,240 saying wow it's like it blends right 1419 01:01:05,750 --> 01:01:04,559 into the sky it's so dark and the 1420 01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:05,760 daughter right next to her is like mom 1421 01:01:09,430 --> 01:01:07,680 what are you talking about it's like 1422 01:01:11,109 --> 01:01:09,440 burning white 1423 01:01:13,510 --> 01:01:11,119 like what i don't understand what are 1424 01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:13,520 you looking at and the mom was feeling 1425 01:01:18,950 --> 01:01:16,319 peaceful calm euphoric and she was like 1426 01:01:20,549 --> 01:01:18,960 it's so silent and when she said that 1427 01:01:22,549 --> 01:01:20,559 she turns back to her daughter again 1428 01:01:24,470 --> 01:01:22,559 jimmy and the daughter's on the ground 1429 01:01:25,829 --> 01:01:24,480 covering her ears saying how loud the 1430 01:01:28,069 --> 01:01:25,839 craft was 1431 01:01:30,710 --> 01:01:28,079 and that was like that one stopped me in 1432 01:01:32,870 --> 01:01:30,720 my tracks um i just i didn't know what 1433 01:01:35,190 --> 01:01:32,880 to make of that and clearly neither did 1434 01:01:37,589 --> 01:01:35,200 they whatever that thing was above them 1435 01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:37,599 in michigan it 1436 01:01:41,750 --> 01:01:40,319 was being perceived differently by the 1437 01:01:43,510 --> 01:01:41,760 mother and daughter 1438 01:01:45,750 --> 01:01:43,520 who were presumably looking at the same 1439 01:01:48,150 --> 01:01:45,760 exact thing right so i don't know what 1440 01:01:50,630 --> 01:01:48,160 to make of that i honestly don't that is 1441 01:01:53,829 --> 01:01:50,640 awesome ryan and that's why you're ryan 1442 01:01:55,750 --> 01:01:53,839 sprague and i am not this is fade to 1443 01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:55,760 black i am your host jimmy church 1444 01:01:59,589 --> 01:01:58,400 tonight ryan sprague somewhere in the 1445 01:02:01,109 --> 01:01:59,599 skies 1446 01:02:04,309 --> 01:02:01,119 there's so much going on right now in 1447 01:02:06,150 --> 01:02:04,319 this ufo community of ours and ryan and 1448 01:02:08,309 --> 01:02:06,160 i find ourselves in the center of most 1449 01:02:09,670 --> 01:02:08,319 of it we're going to be discussing all 1450 01:02:11,990 --> 01:02:09,680 of that everything's on the table 1451 01:02:15,030 --> 01:02:12,000 tonight so buckle up we'll be right back 1452 01:02:33,910 --> 01:02:15,040 after this short break stay with us 1453 01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:33,920 [Music] 1454 01:02:38,710 --> 01:02:36,160 this is fade to black with jimmy church 1455 01:02:43,430 --> 01:02:38,720 on the game changer radio 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official fate or 1541 01:06:51,910 --> 01:06:51,039 not by just going to our membership 1542 01:06:55,270 --> 01:06:51,920 section 1543 01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:57,270 hello this is serena wright taylor from 1544 01:07:01,990 --> 01:06:59,599 conscious life expo and you're listening 1545 01:07:04,309 --> 01:07:02,000 to fade to black with jimmy church who 1546 01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:04,319 holds the lucky pony record for the best 1547 01:07:09,829 --> 01:07:07,920 astrological chart since 1963. true 1548 01:07:11,510 --> 01:07:09,839 story 1549 01:07:13,109 --> 01:07:11,520 this is micah hanks of the ghrelian 1550 01:07:15,510 --> 01:07:13,119 report and you're listening to jimmy 1551 01:07:17,349 --> 01:07:15,520 church on fade to black across the globe 1552 01:07:20,750 --> 01:07:17,359 on the game changer radio network and 1553 01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:20,760 the one and only kgra radio the planet 1554 01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:42,150 welcome back fade to black i am your 1555 01:07:47,750 --> 01:07:45,280 host jimmy church tonight ryan sprague 1556 01:07:50,470 --> 01:07:47,760 yeah i know what you're thinking is this 1557 01:07:53,029 --> 01:07:50,480 a repeat what happened well 1558 01:07:56,150 --> 01:07:53,039 monday night system crashed 1559 01:07:58,470 --> 01:07:56,160 and uh it was pretty funny and uh there 1560 01:08:00,549 --> 01:07:58,480 was a whole thing with pjs that night 1561 01:08:04,630 --> 01:08:00,559 i'm not going to get into and i sent 1562 01:08:05,670 --> 01:08:04,640 ryan uh this text on accident and it was 1563 01:08:07,750 --> 01:08:05,680 like 1564 01:08:09,190 --> 01:08:07,760 i can't remember what i said but it was 1565 01:08:10,549 --> 01:08:09,200 something like it doesn't matter what 1566 01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:10,559 you're wearing 1567 01:08:14,470 --> 01:08:12,240 uh i can 1568 01:08:15,589 --> 01:08:14,480 i'm the only one seeing it or something 1569 01:08:17,749 --> 01:08:15,599 like that 1570 01:08:18,870 --> 01:08:17,759 and i looked down and i sent it to ryan 1571 01:08:21,910 --> 01:08:18,880 and what 1572 01:08:26,390 --> 01:08:23,990 you know what coming from you jimmy i it 1573 01:08:30,390 --> 01:08:26,400 didn't surprise me to be honest i'm like 1574 01:08:32,070 --> 01:08:30,400 oh okay awesome um whatever you say man 1575 01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:32,080 all right but no 1576 01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:34,000 a pleasant text again i just remember 1577 01:08:38,149 --> 01:08:35,279 going ah 1578 01:08:40,550 --> 01:08:38,159 and i'm explaining myself to ryan dude 1579 01:08:43,510 --> 01:08:40,560 i'm not i'm not weird 1580 01:08:47,430 --> 01:08:43,520 hey we've all done it i remember i i i 1581 01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,440 texted my boss at work a photo of like 1582 01:08:51,030 --> 01:08:49,440 a dolph hitler on 1583 01:08:54,950 --> 01:08:51,040 accident because i was looking into 1584 01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:54,960 world war ii ufo nazi connections and i 1585 01:08:59,990 --> 01:08:58,080 had sent something that was uh 1586 01:09:01,910 --> 01:09:00,000 dolan or somebody but i accidentally 1587 01:09:04,070 --> 01:09:01,920 sent it to my boss so 1588 01:09:07,189 --> 01:09:04,080 i had to try to explain that one you 1589 01:09:09,829 --> 01:09:07,199 can't you can't explain there is no good 1590 01:09:10,950 --> 01:09:09,839 if you want to go ufos with that 1591 01:09:12,950 --> 01:09:10,960 yeah that's not going to get you 1592 01:09:16,149 --> 01:09:12,960 anywhere so tonight 1593 01:09:19,430 --> 01:09:16,159 i'm wearing pjs tonight um i'm wearing 1594 01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:19,440 my pj shirt i'm wearing my pj flannels 1595 01:09:23,829 --> 01:09:21,839 i've got no socks on and i'm wearing 1596 01:09:26,149 --> 01:09:23,839 sandals uh just for you just to let 1597 01:09:28,789 --> 01:09:26,159 everybody know what act i i can stand up 1598 01:09:31,349 --> 01:09:28,799 and show everybody in the camera uh what 1599 01:09:32,709 --> 01:09:31,359 what's going on here okay so 1600 01:09:34,470 --> 01:09:32,719 um 1601 01:09:36,550 --> 01:09:34,480 all right 1602 01:09:38,070 --> 01:09:36,560 i've been watching 1603 01:09:41,269 --> 01:09:38,080 social media 1604 01:09:42,550 --> 01:09:41,279 uh this week i had anjali on the show 1605 01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:42,560 last week 1606 01:09:49,590 --> 01:09:45,920 and i brought this show 1607 01:09:51,590 --> 01:09:49,600 has always been from the very beginning 1608 01:09:53,189 --> 01:09:51,600 a show with conversations with people 1609 01:09:55,270 --> 01:09:53,199 that i just want to have a conversation 1610 01:09:56,709 --> 01:09:55,280 with if you want to listen to it fine if 1611 01:09:58,709 --> 01:09:56,719 you don't don't this is just a 1612 01:10:01,270 --> 01:09:58,719 conversation between a couple of people 1613 01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:01,280 and i find it interesting and and that's 1614 01:10:05,270 --> 01:10:03,040 it um 1615 01:10:06,790 --> 01:10:05,280 and so anjali being on the show is no 1616 01:10:08,229 --> 01:10:06,800 different it's no different than having 1617 01:10:09,910 --> 01:10:08,239 you on the show we're just sitting here 1618 01:10:10,870 --> 01:10:09,920 you know having a conversation you don't 1619 01:10:13,350 --> 01:10:10,880 like it 1620 01:10:15,350 --> 01:10:13,360 go listen to something else um and 1621 01:10:19,430 --> 01:10:15,360 that's it so 1622 01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:19,440 um but uh that show 1623 01:10:23,030 --> 01:10:20,719 uh 1624 01:10:25,189 --> 01:10:23,040 you know is ruffling feathers you know 1625 01:10:26,630 --> 01:10:25,199 and i'm not concerned with that part of 1626 01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:26,640 it but 1627 01:10:30,630 --> 01:10:29,360 her story is another 1628 01:10:33,030 --> 01:10:30,640 and 1629 01:10:35,270 --> 01:10:33,040 uh which is what we did on on the show 1630 01:10:36,310 --> 01:10:35,280 last week um i plan on having her on 1631 01:10:39,030 --> 01:10:36,320 again 1632 01:10:40,709 --> 01:10:39,040 um i i've got more questions i just 1633 01:10:43,669 --> 01:10:40,719 couldn't pack everything into two and a 1634 01:10:45,830 --> 01:10:43,679 half hours uh i always run out of time 1635 01:10:48,149 --> 01:10:45,840 that being said 1636 01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:48,159 i don't know if you listen to that fade 1637 01:10:52,149 --> 01:10:49,920 to black broadcast 1638 01:10:54,550 --> 01:10:52,159 um and if you have it ryan 1639 01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:54,560 go and and listen to it 1640 01:10:57,590 --> 01:10:55,520 but 1641 01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:57,600 you're also 1642 01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:00,159 monitoring what is going on it's your 1643 01:11:05,189 --> 01:11:01,600 job 1644 01:11:08,310 --> 01:11:05,199 so let me just throw that out right now 1645 01:11:11,990 --> 01:11:08,320 what do you what do you make of 1646 01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:12,000 the overarching situation right now a an 1647 01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:15,679 e.t base in the mojave desert and she's 1648 01:11:20,070 --> 01:11:18,080 going to assemble a team of of 1649 01:11:21,189 --> 01:11:20,080 scientists and researchers in in the 1650 01:11:23,910 --> 01:11:21,199 media 1651 01:11:26,630 --> 01:11:23,920 and uh we're going to have disclosure 1652 01:11:29,110 --> 01:11:26,640 and and e.t is going to 1653 01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:29,120 reveal themselves what do you make of 1654 01:11:33,030 --> 01:11:30,719 this 1655 01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:33,040 so you know i think when 1656 01:11:41,990 --> 01:11:33,760 the 1657 01:11:44,470 --> 01:11:42,000 it seemed a little 1658 01:11:46,630 --> 01:11:44,480 you know unorganized and and very 1659 01:11:49,110 --> 01:11:46,640 gorilla but hey look that's 1660 01:11:50,550 --> 01:11:49,120 that's what activists do that's how 1661 01:11:54,390 --> 01:11:50,560 these things often 1662 01:11:57,510 --> 01:11:54,400 happen at the spur of a moment and um 1663 01:12:00,470 --> 01:11:57,520 i watched the press conference um 1664 01:12:03,270 --> 01:12:00,480 a lot of what she brought forward 1665 01:12:05,270 --> 01:12:03,280 is very similar to stories we've heard 1666 01:12:07,350 --> 01:12:05,280 throughout the decades whether it comes 1667 01:12:09,990 --> 01:12:07,360 from contactees or 1668 01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:10,000 or um even individuals today who've 1669 01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,400 claimed to have you know been in contact 1670 01:12:18,470 --> 01:12:14,480 with certain beings and have given them 1671 01:12:20,149 --> 01:12:18,480 messages this that um so when i first 1672 01:12:22,229 --> 01:12:20,159 heard about it jimmy i i will be the 1673 01:12:25,350 --> 01:12:22,239 first to admit i kind of brushed it 1674 01:12:27,510 --> 01:12:25,360 aside because to me it was just a story 1675 01:12:30,870 --> 01:12:27,520 um that being said 1676 01:12:32,070 --> 01:12:30,880 i think the issue here is 1677 01:12:34,870 --> 01:12:32,080 people are 1678 01:12:37,510 --> 01:12:34,880 rushing to judgment you know it's a very 1679 01:12:41,110 --> 01:12:37,520 out there story and i will give her 1680 01:12:44,149 --> 01:12:41,120 credit um it takes guts to do what she 1681 01:12:47,430 --> 01:12:44,159 did that that takes a lot of courage to 1682 01:12:49,910 --> 01:12:47,440 get on a stage that big in washington 1683 01:12:51,830 --> 01:12:49,920 and know that your video is going out to 1684 01:12:55,750 --> 01:12:51,840 the world at that point and you're gonna 1685 01:12:58,310 --> 01:12:55,760 make these these very bold claims um 1686 01:13:00,470 --> 01:12:58,320 and i i do give her credit for that and 1687 01:13:03,590 --> 01:13:00,480 i also give her credit for saying that 1688 01:13:05,510 --> 01:13:03,600 she is willing to produce evidence and 1689 01:13:07,189 --> 01:13:05,520 that's kind of where i am right now no 1690 01:13:08,630 --> 01:13:07,199 matter what i think of the 1691 01:13:10,709 --> 01:13:08,640 the claim she's bringing forward 1692 01:13:11,669 --> 01:13:10,719 personally um i 1693 01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:11,679 i 1694 01:13:52,550 --> 01:13:50,239 what's the harm 1695 01:13:54,550 --> 01:13:52,560 right you know we've had these huge 1696 01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:54,560 setbacks in the ufo field 1697 01:13:58,790 --> 01:13:56,719 all the time and the field always 1698 01:14:01,590 --> 01:13:58,800 bounces back and there's always 1699 01:14:03,110 --> 01:14:01,600 something that's gonna come next so you 1700 01:14:05,189 --> 01:14:03,120 know there's many out there who have 1701 01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:05,199 claimed very bold things like she has 1702 01:14:09,189 --> 01:14:07,360 and have never produced a single lick of 1703 01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:09,199 evidence of any of it if she's willing 1704 01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:11,199 to say that she's gonna do that let's 1705 01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:12,880 just wait let's wait and see what 1706 01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:15,760 happens we're not going to be any 1707 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:17,840 we're not going to be 30 steps back than 1708 01:14:22,070 --> 01:14:20,560 where we are today because of this one 1709 01:14:24,550 --> 01:14:22,080 claim being brought forward by an 1710 01:14:26,070 --> 01:14:24,560 individual and i know you and i talked 1711 01:14:28,790 --> 01:14:26,080 off air a little bit 1712 01:14:30,870 --> 01:14:28,800 what if she's right like what if 1713 01:14:32,149 --> 01:14:30,880 everything she's saying 1714 01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:32,159 is real 1715 01:14:35,430 --> 01:14:33,199 and 1716 01:14:37,590 --> 01:14:35,440 again i'm not saying that that's what i 1717 01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:37,600 personally believe but what if that is 1718 01:14:42,470 --> 01:14:39,280 the case what if and we live in a world 1719 01:14:45,750 --> 01:14:42,480 of what-ifs yeah yep what if 1720 01:14:46,550 --> 01:14:45,760 um now there's another part to this 1721 01:14:49,590 --> 01:14:46,560 where 1722 01:14:52,070 --> 01:14:49,600 we are so used to 1723 01:14:53,590 --> 01:14:52,080 nameless whistleblowers right where 1724 01:14:56,790 --> 01:14:53,600 information is coming from you don't 1725 01:14:59,350 --> 01:14:56,800 know a thing about them uh insiders i've 1726 01:15:01,189 --> 01:14:59,360 talked to my insiders today well you 1727 01:15:03,590 --> 01:15:01,199 know who's your insider 1728 01:15:04,950 --> 01:15:03,600 where you know where's their cv what's 1729 01:15:07,189 --> 01:15:04,960 the background who's the name but we 1730 01:15:08,790 --> 01:15:07,199 need to re you know what what's really 1731 01:15:12,070 --> 01:15:08,800 going on you can't 1732 01:15:13,669 --> 01:15:12,080 uh just say i spoke to my insider today 1733 01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:13,679 and check this out 1734 01:15:19,510 --> 01:15:16,880 and we are so used to that and and now 1735 01:15:21,430 --> 01:15:19,520 we have a situation with her 1736 01:15:23,270 --> 01:15:21,440 where she's giving us 1737 01:15:27,830 --> 01:15:23,280 all of her names 1738 01:15:29,910 --> 01:15:27,840 right uh her work history her aliases uh 1739 01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:29,920 her maiden names her birthdays and this 1740 01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:32,159 i went by this name in the fifth grade 1741 01:15:35,590 --> 01:15:34,560 and you could okay so i 1742 01:15:38,630 --> 01:15:35,600 she might have said that i'm 1743 01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:38,640 paraphrasing everybody but um 1744 01:15:44,229 --> 01:15:41,040 that is something different 1745 01:15:46,470 --> 01:15:44,239 than we have ever been exposed to 1746 01:15:49,910 --> 01:15:46,480 um before 1747 01:15:52,310 --> 01:15:49,920 does that change your mind or your focus 1748 01:15:54,709 --> 01:15:52,320 on this 1749 01:15:56,390 --> 01:15:54,719 in in a way you know again i i 1750 01:15:58,709 --> 01:15:56,400 understand just like everyone else when 1751 01:16:00,310 --> 01:15:58,719 you hear i have an inside source i can't 1752 01:16:02,070 --> 01:16:00,320 name them but they told me this that's 1753 01:16:04,070 --> 01:16:02,080 frustrating but hey look that's 1754 01:16:04,950 --> 01:16:04,080 journalism like 1755 01:16:07,990 --> 01:16:04,960 every 1756 01:16:10,229 --> 01:16:08,000 professional journalist has used unnamed 1757 01:16:12,790 --> 01:16:10,239 sources in the past and it's up to the 1758 01:16:15,110 --> 01:16:12,800 reader if they choose to put credence in 1759 01:16:17,189 --> 01:16:15,120 that or not 1760 01:16:19,910 --> 01:16:17,199 that's how you keep sources that's how 1761 01:16:22,229 --> 01:16:19,920 you keep a trusted source is to not name 1762 01:16:25,189 --> 01:16:22,239 them not divulge that but they clearly 1763 01:16:28,070 --> 01:16:25,199 want information to get out so again if 1764 01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:28,080 anjali is willing to do that name names 1765 01:16:33,750 --> 01:16:31,760 uh be honest about her past and and 1766 01:16:35,830 --> 01:16:33,760 look at the job she's held these 1767 01:16:36,630 --> 01:16:35,840 positions she's had it's pretty 1768 01:16:40,070 --> 01:16:36,640 uh 1769 01:16:43,189 --> 01:16:40,080 respectable so you know she has a lot to 1770 01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:43,199 lose if this blows up in her face and i 1771 01:16:47,910 --> 01:16:44,960 hope she knows that and i'm sure she 1772 01:16:50,470 --> 01:16:47,920 knows that if this is all some sort of 1773 01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:50,480 uh what what have you a prank in 1774 01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:53,920 elaborate hoax or it's all real 1775 01:16:56,870 --> 01:16:54,800 so 1776 01:16:59,350 --> 01:16:56,880 that's what i'm saying again i think we 1777 01:17:01,030 --> 01:16:59,360 just have to wait and see we're not what 1778 01:17:02,550 --> 01:17:01,040 do we have to lose at this point 1779 01:17:05,189 --> 01:17:02,560 honestly a lot of people in the field 1780 01:17:07,590 --> 01:17:05,199 believe we're going to lose a lot of uh 1781 01:17:08,709 --> 01:17:07,600 the field's reputation what reputation 1782 01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:08,719 what rep 1783 01:17:15,030 --> 01:17:12,080 stop stop with that 1784 01:17:17,189 --> 01:17:15,040 i mean okay um uh you want to know how i 1785 01:17:19,750 --> 01:17:17,199 became a ufologist jimmy you know how 1786 01:17:21,430 --> 01:17:19,760 peter robins taught me to be a ufologist 1787 01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:21,440 spin around three times and touch your 1788 01:17:24,630 --> 01:17:23,040 nose you're a ufologist yeah that's 1789 01:17:26,950 --> 01:17:24,640 right that's right that's right yeah 1790 01:17:29,189 --> 01:17:26,960 he's uh he said that to me 1791 01:17:31,270 --> 01:17:29,199 um and that's that's actually i mean 1792 01:17:33,990 --> 01:17:31,280 there's no certification program that i 1793 01:17:36,790 --> 01:17:34,000 know of uh maybe we should 1794 01:17:38,709 --> 01:17:36,800 uh we should yeah that's that's 1795 01:17:41,030 --> 01:17:38,719 man i'm too busy that's all i needed 1796 01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:41,040 something else added to this pile 1797 01:17:44,470 --> 01:17:43,199 um but that's a great idea 1798 01:17:47,590 --> 01:17:44,480 and now 1799 01:17:48,550 --> 01:17:47,600 uh here there's another uh aspect to 1800 01:17:50,709 --> 01:17:48,560 this 1801 01:17:54,470 --> 01:17:50,719 there's a timeline here 1802 01:17:56,470 --> 01:17:54,480 2021 right right and and we are sitting 1803 01:17:59,990 --> 01:17:56,480 squarely at we're in the last quarter 1804 01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:00,000 man this is september 1805 01:18:04,709 --> 01:18:02,000 right that's it that's it september 1806 01:18:05,830 --> 01:18:04,719 october november december 1807 01:18:08,229 --> 01:18:05,840 that's it 1808 01:18:10,149 --> 01:18:08,239 so there's a window here 1809 01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:10,159 um she's obviously 1810 01:18:13,590 --> 01:18:11,199 busy 1811 01:18:16,149 --> 01:18:13,600 right she's got work to do 1812 01:18:17,910 --> 01:18:16,159 and the other part is she's given us 1813 01:18:20,470 --> 01:18:17,920 this deadline 1814 01:18:22,070 --> 01:18:20,480 and the deadline falls back on herself 1815 01:18:24,070 --> 01:18:22,080 which says 1816 01:18:25,830 --> 01:18:24,080 and i said this to her and 1817 01:18:27,350 --> 01:18:25,840 and every 1818 01:18:28,709 --> 01:18:27,360 we're all in the same frame of mind this 1819 01:18:31,189 --> 01:18:28,719 has to happen 1820 01:18:32,950 --> 01:18:31,199 you can't give us a deadline 1821 01:18:36,709 --> 01:18:32,960 and then uh 1822 01:18:37,750 --> 01:18:36,719 blow past the deadline with an excuse 1823 01:18:43,910 --> 01:18:37,760 you can't 1824 01:18:47,990 --> 01:18:43,920 uh it's not about i would love for it to 1825 01:18:50,950 --> 01:18:48,000 happen no no we're way past that 1826 01:18:53,590 --> 01:18:50,960 it has to happen ryan 1827 01:18:56,630 --> 01:18:53,600 right and you know if it doesn't we'll 1828 01:18:58,790 --> 01:18:56,640 move on and again timetable's a good 1829 01:19:00,149 --> 01:18:58,800 point jimmy i mean look at all the stuff 1830 01:19:01,990 --> 01:19:00,159 going on with the 1831 01:19:03,990 --> 01:19:02,000 the pentagon and the task force if they 1832 01:19:05,910 --> 01:19:04,000 didn't have a deadline to put that 1833 01:19:07,270 --> 01:19:05,920 assessment out it never would have came 1834 01:19:09,669 --> 01:19:07,280 out no matter what you think if it was 1835 01:19:11,430 --> 01:19:09,679 good bad boring um 1836 01:19:13,990 --> 01:19:11,440 what have you uh 1837 01:19:16,149 --> 01:19:14,000 they were put under a time limit to get 1838 01:19:18,630 --> 01:19:16,159 that out and i think that's important in 1839 01:19:20,390 --> 01:19:18,640 this field and for disclosure moving 1840 01:19:23,590 --> 01:19:20,400 forward if we want to work with the 1841 01:19:25,910 --> 01:19:23,600 government for any type of disclosure we 1842 01:19:29,030 --> 01:19:25,920 need to put their feet under the fire 1843 01:19:31,430 --> 01:19:29,040 and say we want this we demand this of 1844 01:19:33,910 --> 01:19:31,440 you by this point because you work for 1845 01:19:36,550 --> 01:19:33,920 us remember that and i think that's what 1846 01:19:38,229 --> 01:19:36,560 we saw with this report yeah granted it 1847 01:19:40,229 --> 01:19:38,239 might not have been what people wanted 1848 01:19:43,189 --> 01:19:40,239 they did the bare minimum of what was 1849 01:19:45,270 --> 01:19:43,199 asked of them but it's gonna continue 1850 01:19:47,830 --> 01:19:45,280 you know we now have deadlines that they 1851 01:19:50,950 --> 01:19:47,840 have to meet every quarter or whatnot 1852 01:19:52,550 --> 01:19:50,960 this uap task force so again not going 1853 01:19:55,270 --> 01:19:52,560 too far into that but going back to 1854 01:19:57,110 --> 01:19:55,280 anjali it's good to have deadlines 1855 01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:57,120 because then we know okay after this 1856 01:20:03,270 --> 01:19:59,600 date if it happens great the world 1857 01:20:05,510 --> 01:20:03,280 changes forever and she was right or we 1858 01:20:07,350 --> 01:20:05,520 just move on to the next thing yeah and 1859 01:20:10,070 --> 01:20:07,360 moving on uh 1860 01:20:12,310 --> 01:20:10,080 will be very easy to do because we do 1861 01:20:13,910 --> 01:20:12,320 that constantly it's what we do 1862 01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:13,920 in ufology 1863 01:20:18,790 --> 01:20:16,320 but there's another part to this and 1864 01:20:20,629 --> 01:20:18,800 i've i've broken this down 1865 01:20:23,030 --> 01:20:20,639 there's another part 1866 01:20:25,430 --> 01:20:23,040 there can't be 1867 01:20:27,750 --> 01:20:25,440 an excuse 1868 01:20:29,990 --> 01:20:27,760 about the aliens aren't here they packed 1869 01:20:32,390 --> 01:20:30,000 up and moved out that that's not gonna 1870 01:20:34,070 --> 01:20:32,400 fly number one right 1871 01:20:36,390 --> 01:20:34,080 and number two 1872 01:20:39,110 --> 01:20:36,400 this team that is 1873 01:20:43,669 --> 01:20:39,120 uh going to be assembled 1874 01:20:45,590 --> 01:20:43,679 one of those individuals on that team 1875 01:20:47,510 --> 01:20:45,600 can't be the reason 1876 01:20:48,790 --> 01:20:47,520 why this didn't happen 1877 01:20:52,070 --> 01:20:48,800 right 1878 01:20:53,510 --> 01:20:52,080 and what i mean by that is oh man 1879 01:20:56,229 --> 01:20:53,520 you know uh 1880 01:20:58,709 --> 01:20:56,239 uh chris mellon's on the team 1881 01:21:00,229 --> 01:20:58,719 and and uh the the government came in 1882 01:21:01,510 --> 01:21:00,239 and stopped it whatever i'm i'm 1883 01:21:03,189 --> 01:21:01,520 paraphrasing i'm not saying chris 1884 01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:03,199 mellon's on the team that's but you 1885 01:21:07,750 --> 01:21:05,840 understand you know that you know we we 1886 01:21:10,149 --> 01:21:07,760 added ryan sprague 1887 01:21:12,870 --> 01:21:10,159 he went and ran his mouth 1888 01:21:14,950 --> 01:21:12,880 and and and they came in they found out 1889 01:21:17,510 --> 01:21:14,960 the location and 1890 01:21:20,310 --> 01:21:17,520 and wayne and trisha's he exposed their 1891 01:21:21,750 --> 01:21:20,320 identity it's all it's all ryan's fault 1892 01:21:24,310 --> 01:21:21,760 right what no 1893 01:21:26,550 --> 01:21:24,320 those excuses won't fly 1894 01:21:28,629 --> 01:21:26,560 this time because she says the team's 1895 01:21:33,910 --> 01:21:28,639 going to be pre-approved by the ufos 1896 01:21:34,870 --> 01:21:33,920 everything uh by the ufos by the et's 1897 01:21:37,030 --> 01:21:34,880 in that 1898 01:21:40,550 --> 01:21:37,040 she has put her own limitations on 1899 01:21:43,910 --> 01:21:40,560 herself that i appreciate and respect 1900 01:21:46,550 --> 01:21:43,920 right absolutely that the the ets are 1901 01:21:48,149 --> 01:21:46,560 going to approve of this team 1902 01:21:49,590 --> 01:21:48,159 uh okay 1903 01:21:52,629 --> 01:21:49,600 all right 1904 01:21:53,910 --> 01:21:52,639 right so ryan gets gets you know gets 1905 01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:53,920 the stamp 1906 01:21:59,830 --> 01:21:56,639 well that's on you know what i mean so 1907 01:22:02,790 --> 01:21:59,840 none of these excuses can fly 1908 01:22:05,030 --> 01:22:02,800 that would normally come into play right 1909 01:22:07,430 --> 01:22:05,040 it's pretty interesting it's pretty 1910 01:22:09,350 --> 01:22:07,440 interesting ryan 1911 01:22:11,669 --> 01:22:09,360 absolutely and she put that pressure on 1912 01:22:13,750 --> 01:22:11,679 herself she didn't have to do this press 1913 01:22:15,910 --> 01:22:13,760 conference she didn't have to get on 1914 01:22:17,669 --> 01:22:15,920 twitter she didn't have to start you 1915 01:22:20,310 --> 01:22:17,679 know um 1916 01:22:23,350 --> 01:22:20,320 doing all of that this is her decision 1917 01:22:25,030 --> 01:22:23,360 and she says that this is what they want 1918 01:22:28,709 --> 01:22:25,040 so if that's the case 1919 01:22:30,870 --> 01:22:28,719 so be it like let's do it like hey 1920 01:22:32,790 --> 01:22:30,880 weird stuff happens in the mojave you 1921 01:22:35,430 --> 01:22:32,800 know that i know that we've been out 1922 01:22:38,550 --> 01:22:35,440 there we know that there's some crazy 1923 01:22:40,149 --> 01:22:38,560 stuff going on in that desert so if 1924 01:22:42,790 --> 01:22:40,159 if it were to be true jimmy you know 1925 01:22:43,910 --> 01:22:42,800 that's a desert it would happen 1926 01:22:44,950 --> 01:22:43,920 you go 1927 01:22:45,910 --> 01:22:44,960 and 1928 01:22:49,430 --> 01:22:45,920 uh 1929 01:22:50,870 --> 01:22:49,440 you move into a new apartment right it's 1930 01:22:53,270 --> 01:22:50,880 a new apartment 1931 01:22:55,189 --> 01:22:53,280 and you're you're there it's the first 1932 01:22:57,270 --> 01:22:55,199 day it's empty and you're you're you're 1933 01:22:57,990 --> 01:22:57,280 going around it's clean and it's nice 1934 01:22:59,590 --> 01:22:58,000 and 1935 01:23:02,149 --> 01:22:59,600 you're all excited 1936 01:23:05,830 --> 01:23:02,159 no matter what 1937 01:23:07,510 --> 01:23:05,840 there is something left behind from the 1938 01:23:10,070 --> 01:23:07,520 previous owner 1939 01:23:11,189 --> 01:23:10,080 it doesn't matter you're going to find 1940 01:23:13,270 --> 01:23:11,199 something 1941 01:23:16,870 --> 01:23:13,280 it could be big could be small 1942 01:23:19,669 --> 01:23:16,880 but something gets left behind 1943 01:23:22,149 --> 01:23:19,679 this underground base right 1944 01:23:24,149 --> 01:23:22,159 we enter we round the corner et's gone 1945 01:23:26,149 --> 01:23:24,159 they packed up and left 1946 01:23:28,390 --> 01:23:26,159 well 1947 01:23:29,189 --> 01:23:28,400 what is left behind 1948 01:23:32,070 --> 01:23:29,199 right 1949 01:23:33,030 --> 01:23:32,080 the u.s embassy they clear out of kabul 1950 01:23:35,270 --> 01:23:33,040 right 1951 01:23:36,070 --> 01:23:35,280 there's plenty of stuff left behind 1952 01:23:39,350 --> 01:23:36,080 um 1953 01:23:41,590 --> 01:23:39,360 and and that would be the case there 1954 01:23:44,310 --> 01:23:41,600 it can't it couldn't be empty right you 1955 01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:44,320 see what i said there is everything that 1956 01:23:49,350 --> 01:23:47,120 would be used as an excuse 1957 01:23:51,590 --> 01:23:49,360 can't play out here 1958 01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:51,600 right it's it's it's this we have got 1959 01:23:55,830 --> 01:23:53,760 ourselves a very interesting situation 1960 01:23:59,590 --> 01:23:55,840 with anjali 1961 01:24:01,189 --> 01:23:59,600 absolutely and look these stories of 1962 01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,199 let's call them 1963 01:24:05,669 --> 01:24:03,600 cryptoterrestrials have been around for 1964 01:24:08,550 --> 01:24:05,679 decades you look at the early work of 1965 01:24:10,470 --> 01:24:08,560 someone like the late mac tonys who 1966 01:24:12,950 --> 01:24:10,480 looked into this that you know these 1967 01:24:15,669 --> 01:24:12,960 beings have been here a long before us 1968 01:24:19,110 --> 01:24:15,679 and they had to move to the inner earth 1969 01:24:20,950 --> 01:24:19,120 just to survive so hey look this isn't 1970 01:24:21,830 --> 01:24:20,960 the first claim of this sort of thing 1971 01:24:24,629 --> 01:24:21,840 being 1972 01:24:27,189 --> 01:24:24,639 real or you look at a lot of the stuff 1973 01:24:30,629 --> 01:24:27,199 that the current people are saying uh 1974 01:24:32,790 --> 01:24:30,639 summervin elizondo all these guys saying 1975 01:24:35,910 --> 01:24:32,800 yeah we think there's a possibility it 1976 01:24:38,149 --> 01:24:35,920 could be non-human intelligence and 1977 01:24:40,709 --> 01:24:38,159 you know immediately we rush to oh so 1978 01:24:42,870 --> 01:24:40,719 extraterrestrial and they're very quick 1979 01:24:44,709 --> 01:24:42,880 to say no i didn't say that we didn't 1980 01:24:46,950 --> 01:24:44,719 say it's coming from off planet we're 1981 01:24:48,149 --> 01:24:46,960 just saying it's non-human so you do 1982 01:24:49,350 --> 01:24:48,159 have to wonder 1983 01:24:51,270 --> 01:24:49,360 is that 1984 01:24:53,830 --> 01:24:51,280 kind of what they're alluding to could 1985 01:24:55,430 --> 01:24:53,840 it be something like what anjali is 1986 01:24:58,470 --> 01:24:55,440 bringing forward again these are 1987 01:25:00,790 --> 01:24:58,480 connections that might not you know pan 1988 01:25:03,590 --> 01:25:00,800 out whatsoever all of them could be 1989 01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:03,600 wrong but hey i'm these stories have 1990 01:25:09,430 --> 01:25:06,880 been around for a while and until anjali 1991 01:25:11,030 --> 01:25:09,440 brings any sort of evidence forward it's 1992 01:25:12,950 --> 01:25:11,040 just a story 1993 01:25:16,950 --> 01:25:12,960 now there's uh 1994 01:25:19,030 --> 01:25:16,960 uh uh how many 1995 01:25:21,189 --> 01:25:19,040 uh i'm thinking about somewhere in the 1996 01:25:23,830 --> 01:25:21,199 skies i can't remember there's a 1997 01:25:25,669 --> 01:25:23,840 reference in in in in your book about 1998 01:25:26,709 --> 01:25:25,679 this but you've interviewed enough 1999 01:25:33,669 --> 01:25:26,719 people 2000 01:25:35,750 --> 01:25:33,679 that have referenced them being taken 2001 01:25:36,709 --> 01:25:35,760 underground 2002 01:25:39,750 --> 01:25:36,719 um 2003 01:25:41,110 --> 01:25:39,760 right very yeah yeah that's it's 2004 01:25:43,590 --> 01:25:41,120 interesting you bring that up that's 2005 01:25:45,990 --> 01:25:43,600 actually something i'm looking into uh 2006 01:25:48,229 --> 01:25:46,000 for the new book because a lot of the 2007 01:25:50,149 --> 01:25:48,239 people i interviewed about abductions or 2008 01:25:53,110 --> 01:25:50,159 experiences in the the first two 2009 01:25:54,629 --> 01:25:53,120 editions of somewhere in the skies uh 2010 01:25:58,870 --> 01:25:54,639 they were mostly 2011 01:26:01,830 --> 01:25:58,880 from craft off planet let's say um so 2012 01:26:03,990 --> 01:26:01,840 i'm that's why i bring up the late mac 2013 01:26:05,910 --> 01:26:04,000 tony's that's why i find anjalee's story 2014 01:26:07,990 --> 01:26:05,920 compelling is because it's actually a 2015 01:26:09,510 --> 01:26:08,000 part of the research that i'm looking 2016 01:26:11,910 --> 01:26:09,520 into right now 2017 01:26:14,470 --> 01:26:11,920 so hey for me man this is good timing 2018 01:26:17,430 --> 01:26:14,480 for what anjali's paying forward so 2019 01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:17,440 maybe by the time her deadline comes 2020 01:26:21,510 --> 01:26:19,600 let's say it doesn't pan out i won't 2021 01:26:23,669 --> 01:26:21,520 have to look into that research anymore 2022 01:26:26,709 --> 01:26:23,679 and i can move on to something else um 2023 01:26:29,350 --> 01:26:26,719 or somebody else let's say so 2024 01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:29,360 um you know i i can't off hand remember 2025 01:26:32,310 --> 01:26:30,880 anyone telling me they were brought 2026 01:26:35,110 --> 01:26:32,320 underground 2027 01:26:37,510 --> 01:26:35,120 per se but um who knows 2028 01:26:41,030 --> 01:26:37,520 who who honestly knows the 2029 01:26:43,750 --> 01:26:41,040 the ufo world not not the key 2030 01:26:45,590 --> 01:26:43,760 the community is the observer right here 2031 01:26:46,470 --> 01:26:45,600 right where we're observing what's going 2032 01:26:50,629 --> 01:26:46,480 on 2033 01:26:53,910 --> 01:26:50,639 but the ufo world every time 2034 01:26:55,510 --> 01:26:53,920 things kind of simmer down 2035 01:26:58,470 --> 01:26:55,520 something happens 2036 01:26:59,830 --> 01:26:58,480 there there is just an there is never a 2037 01:27:02,470 --> 01:26:59,840 dull moment 2038 01:27:04,950 --> 01:27:02,480 it it it doesn't matter there is always 2039 01:27:07,270 --> 01:27:04,960 and just when you think it can't get 2040 01:27:10,070 --> 01:27:07,280 crazier or there can't be another 2041 01:27:12,070 --> 01:27:10,080 situation it happens 2042 01:27:13,590 --> 01:27:12,080 right there is never a dull moment is 2043 01:27:16,070 --> 01:27:13,600 there 2044 01:27:18,790 --> 01:27:16,080 never you know and yeah i think that's 2045 01:27:21,510 --> 01:27:18,800 why i'm turning gray so quickly jimmy 2046 01:27:23,590 --> 01:27:21,520 because it's it's stressful like the 2047 01:27:26,550 --> 01:27:23,600 again the minute you think you figured 2048 01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:26,560 something out something changes and 2049 01:27:30,790 --> 01:27:28,800 again that's completely reflective of 2050 01:27:33,189 --> 01:27:30,800 the phenomena in the trickster-ish 2051 01:27:36,950 --> 01:27:33,199 nature it's always kind of displayed 2052 01:27:40,149 --> 01:27:36,960 itself as is you know cool you um 2053 01:27:42,310 --> 01:27:40,159 you want serious military ufo encounters 2054 01:27:44,149 --> 01:27:42,320 to ha to come out to the public you want 2055 01:27:46,390 --> 01:27:44,159 disclosure from the government great 2056 01:27:48,629 --> 01:27:46,400 also here's a facebook event called 2057 01:27:50,950 --> 01:27:48,639 storm area 51 that nobody's going to 2058 01:27:53,510 --> 01:27:50,960 take seriously right in the mainstream 2059 01:27:55,990 --> 01:27:53,520 let's run these at the same time and see 2060 01:27:58,470 --> 01:27:56,000 what happens can i see can i see your 2061 01:28:02,149 --> 01:27:58,480 can i see your tattoo 2062 01:28:02,950 --> 01:28:02,159 yeah man which yeah what what is that 2063 01:28:05,750 --> 01:28:02,960 shoot 2064 01:28:08,149 --> 01:28:05,760 this is a typewriter a smith corona 2065 01:28:09,830 --> 01:28:08,159 typewriter 2066 01:28:12,629 --> 01:28:09,840 okay thanks 2067 01:28:15,110 --> 01:28:12,639 and it's got a song title typed in there 2068 01:28:16,550 --> 01:28:15,120 uh from my favorite band amberlynn which 2069 01:28:18,310 --> 01:28:16,560 is the t-shirt i'm wearing right now i 2070 01:28:20,390 --> 01:28:18,320 was gonna ask you about that okay and 2071 01:28:22,790 --> 01:28:20,400 and the other tat was there one on the 2072 01:28:25,110 --> 01:28:22,800 other that's a yep i got a question mark 2073 01:28:26,870 --> 01:28:25,120 on my other forearm yeah i see that okay 2074 01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:26,880 that's what it is okay 2075 01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:29,280 i got that in a shack in the desert in 2076 01:28:35,189 --> 01:28:32,000 roswell new mexico my first tattoo oh 2077 01:28:38,629 --> 01:28:35,199 man a dollar how much was it 2078 01:28:40,070 --> 01:28:38,639 this one oh gosh i think it was like 50. 2079 01:28:42,870 --> 01:28:40,080 but it was funny 2080 01:28:44,790 --> 01:28:42,880 the dude do it his kid his baby was 2081 01:28:46,870 --> 01:28:44,800 there the whole time like crawling on 2082 01:28:49,030 --> 01:28:46,880 him while he's trying to ink me up i was 2083 01:28:52,070 --> 01:28:49,040 so nervous man it was like 2084 01:28:53,030 --> 01:28:52,080 how many tattoos have you actually done 2085 01:28:54,870 --> 01:28:53,040 you know 2086 01:28:57,430 --> 01:28:54,880 but it was an experience i'll never it's 2087 01:28:59,590 --> 01:28:57,440 a permanent souvenir from roswell i'll 2088 01:29:00,870 --> 01:28:59,600 never forget yeah totally cool totally 2089 01:29:02,629 --> 01:29:00,880 cool all right let's take our break 2090 01:29:05,910 --> 01:29:02,639 right here this is fade to black this 2091 01:29:07,430 --> 01:29:05,920 tattoo it says panama right can you see 2092 01:29:10,470 --> 01:29:07,440 it oh 2093 01:29:13,750 --> 01:29:10,480 yep yep that's cost me a dollar in 2094 01:29:14,870 --> 01:29:13,760 downtown panama city uh down in central 2095 01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:14,880 america 2096 01:29:19,430 --> 01:29:17,280 and uh i'll never forget it uh i went 2097 01:29:21,110 --> 01:29:19,440 down with uh four fret three friends 2098 01:29:25,510 --> 01:29:21,120 four of us were all getting 2099 01:29:26,950 --> 01:29:25,520 panama tattoos it was every most of the 2100 01:29:29,510 --> 01:29:26,960 uh 2101 01:29:31,350 --> 01:29:29,520 most of the boys i would say men in high 2102 01:29:34,390 --> 01:29:31,360 school we all got them 2103 01:29:35,750 --> 01:29:34,400 and so we went down to get ours 2104 01:29:38,629 --> 01:29:35,760 paid a dollar 2105 01:29:40,550 --> 01:29:38,639 and i gave the the guy give giving me 2106 01:29:42,790 --> 01:29:40,560 the tattoo if i he didn't have change i 2107 01:29:43,910 --> 01:29:42,800 gave him a five dollar bill i'm 15 14 2108 01:29:46,390 --> 01:29:43,920 15. 2109 01:29:47,990 --> 01:29:46,400 and so he had to go and get changed and 2110 01:29:50,950 --> 01:29:48,000 bring me back four dollars i'm not 2111 01:29:53,110 --> 01:29:50,960 making that up but anyway he takes he 2112 01:29:55,189 --> 01:29:53,120 takes uh let me look at the clock he 2113 01:29:57,110 --> 01:29:55,199 takes a a uh 2114 01:29:58,790 --> 01:29:57,120 uh toothpick 2115 01:30:02,070 --> 01:29:58,800 dips it in ink 2116 01:30:03,590 --> 01:30:02,080 comes over to my arm writes out panama 2117 01:30:05,510 --> 01:30:03,600 with this toothpick 2118 01:30:06,470 --> 01:30:05,520 and i was like okay all right so far so 2119 01:30:10,149 --> 01:30:06,480 good 2120 01:30:12,149 --> 01:30:10,159 and then uh then he takes out that 2121 01:30:15,189 --> 01:30:12,159 right and and 2122 01:30:17,430 --> 01:30:15,199 and uh and i was like holy crap 2123 01:30:18,870 --> 01:30:17,440 all right this hurt anyway my three 2124 01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:18,880 friends 2125 01:30:23,910 --> 01:30:22,080 bailed they bailed on you they bailed no 2126 01:30:26,149 --> 01:30:23,920 they didn't leave 2127 01:30:27,189 --> 01:30:26,159 they watched in hawa 2128 01:30:29,270 --> 01:30:27,199 right 2129 01:30:31,830 --> 01:30:29,280 you know and they're like nah you know 2130 01:30:34,070 --> 01:30:31,840 i'm gonna do this later 2131 01:30:35,910 --> 01:30:34,080 so i was the only one cost me a dollar 2132 01:30:38,390 --> 01:30:35,920 man and here i am 2133 01:30:40,709 --> 01:30:38,400 you know 40 years later and and i walk 2134 01:30:43,110 --> 01:30:40,719 around with a little piece of uh panama 2135 01:30:45,590 --> 01:30:43,120 me and and and i love it but that's 2136 01:30:51,030 --> 01:30:45,600 that's my only tat and that yeah it's a 2137 01:30:54,470 --> 01:30:52,870 yeah i'm getting ready for my next one 2138 01:30:57,110 --> 01:30:54,480 too jimmy i'm excited 2139 01:30:58,870 --> 01:30:57,120 i you know i'm thinking 2140 01:31:01,270 --> 01:30:58,880 about something 2141 01:31:02,790 --> 01:31:01,280 i i just don't know what i want 2142 01:31:05,110 --> 01:31:02,800 but i'm saying 2143 01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:05,120 you know i'm in the flying saucer sphere 2144 01:31:09,430 --> 01:31:07,040 on it but i don't know how i don't want 2145 01:31:10,790 --> 01:31:09,440 just like it's the cliche thing like 2146 01:31:12,950 --> 01:31:10,800 it's gotta mean something to you yeah 2147 01:31:15,030 --> 01:31:12,960 like that's a memory of panama you'll 2148 01:31:17,430 --> 01:31:15,040 always have you know i should get this i 2149 01:31:19,510 --> 01:31:17,440 should get that tattooed oh i love that 2150 01:31:22,870 --> 01:31:19,520 you should get that for sure well you 2151 01:31:25,189 --> 01:31:22,880 know i don't want to be the old hipster 2152 01:31:27,510 --> 01:31:25,199 dude with tats 2153 01:31:28,550 --> 01:31:27,520 i don't want to be that guy i i just 2154 01:31:31,110 --> 01:31:28,560 don't 2155 01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:31,120 so i you got to figure out the clever 2156 01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:34,239 tat that doesn't make you the wanna be 2157 01:31:36,950 --> 01:31:35,440 you know i'm not gonna have a little 2158 01:31:38,950 --> 01:31:36,960 ponytail 2159 01:31:43,510 --> 01:31:38,960 you know 2160 01:31:45,189 --> 01:31:43,520 the age of 60. i'm not gonna be that 2161 01:31:47,030 --> 01:31:45,199 dude let's take our break right here 2162 01:31:49,750 --> 01:31:47,040 this is fade to black i am your host 2163 01:31:51,750 --> 01:31:49,760 jimmy church tonight ryan spray 2164 01:31:53,990 --> 01:31:51,760 now when we're gonna come uh we're gonna 2165 01:31:55,990 --> 01:31:54,000 come back and talk about gen z 2166 01:31:57,669 --> 01:31:56,000 that's right it's ryan i gotta learn 2167 01:32:01,090 --> 01:31:57,679 something i'll be right back after this 2168 01:32:06,740 --> 01:32:01,100 short break this is fade to black 2169 01:32:06,750 --> 01:32:17,270 [Music] 2170 01:32:23,510 --> 01:32:20,390 way out here we listen to jimmy church 2171 01:32:25,350 --> 01:32:23,520 you're listening to fade to black 2172 01:32:28,070 --> 01:32:25,360 always on the edge of the hottest 2173 01:32:33,950 --> 01:32:28,080 alternative talk jimmy church with fade 2174 01:32:33,960 --> 01:32:45,350 [Applause] 2175 01:32:50,149 --> 01:32:47,430 do you want to be an official fate or 2176 01:32:52,390 --> 01:32:50,159 not of course you do this is jimmy 2177 01:32:53,590 --> 01:32:52,400 church of fade to black just go to our 2178 01:32:56,229 --> 01:32:53,600 membership section at 2179 01:32:58,470 --> 01:32:56,239 jimmychurchradio.com 2180 01:33:00,550 --> 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church this is revolution the 2252 01:36:10,950 --> 01:36:07,679 revolution will not be televised the 2253 01:36:15,660 --> 01:36:10,960 revolution is on radio 2254 01:36:54,870 --> 01:36:44,800 [Music] 2255 01:36:58,390 --> 01:36:56,470 welcome back fade to black i am your 2256 01:37:00,950 --> 01:36:58,400 host jimmy church tonight ryan sprague 2257 01:37:03,109 --> 01:37:00,960 more with ryan in just a bit 2258 01:37:05,430 --> 01:37:03,119 right now i want to talk to you about my 2259 01:37:07,669 --> 01:37:05,440 patriot supply 2260 01:37:11,030 --> 01:37:07,679 you need to be prepared 2261 01:37:13,669 --> 01:37:11,040 just just go and do it whatever your 2262 01:37:16,229 --> 01:37:13,679 situation is with your family right now 2263 01:37:17,910 --> 01:37:16,239 ryan just you know ryan 2264 01:37:20,149 --> 01:37:17,920 ryan is a prepper 2265 01:37:22,229 --> 01:37:20,159 he's a prepper he's going through it 2266 01:37:24,550 --> 01:37:22,239 right now in new york but he's prepared 2267 01:37:26,470 --> 01:37:24,560 he just showed me all of his all of his 2268 01:37:28,070 --> 01:37:26,480 food that he is cooking because he can't 2269 01:37:30,229 --> 01:37:28,080 do anything right now 2270 01:37:32,790 --> 01:37:30,239 no i'm kidding but you need to be 2271 01:37:36,070 --> 01:37:32,800 prepared i'm prepared i have got a 2272 01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:36,080 garage full of stuff i want you to visit 2273 01:37:42,709 --> 01:37:39,520 my patreon supply which is all easy to 2274 01:37:44,550 --> 01:37:42,719 do it is prepping with jimmy.com 2275 01:37:46,950 --> 01:37:44,560 the links are below in the video 2276 01:37:49,189 --> 01:37:46,960 description box there are special sales 2277 01:37:52,709 --> 01:37:49,199 that are going on right now one month 2278 01:37:55,510 --> 01:37:52,719 supply three months supply even a water 2279 01:37:57,510 --> 01:37:55,520 purification system yeah 2280 01:37:58,470 --> 01:37:57,520 and uh i remember 2281 01:38:00,550 --> 01:37:58,480 uh 2282 01:38:03,270 --> 01:38:00,560 two years ago you couldn't buy water in 2283 01:38:05,510 --> 01:38:03,280 los angeles you went to any store 2284 01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:05,520 it was done what did i have to do i had 2285 01:38:09,990 --> 01:38:08,080 to get a water purification system go 2286 01:38:11,430 --> 01:38:10,000 and get it right now for my patriot 2287 01:38:13,430 --> 01:38:11,440 supply you don't have to worry about 2288 01:38:15,910 --> 01:38:13,440 water bottles you have to do anything 2289 01:38:18,229 --> 01:38:15,920 get a water purification system we have 2290 01:38:19,750 --> 01:38:18,239 that on the website the link is below 2291 01:38:21,350 --> 01:38:19,760 there are banners over at 2292 01:38:23,830 --> 01:38:21,360 jimmychurchradio.com 2293 01:38:26,470 --> 01:38:23,840 it's preppingwithjimmy.com it is all 2294 01:38:28,070 --> 01:38:26,480 simple to do get yourself prepared my 2295 01:38:30,550 --> 01:38:28,080 patriot supply 2296 01:38:32,790 --> 01:38:30,560 and uh let's get back to ryan ryan so 2297 01:38:35,590 --> 01:38:32,800 check this out i'm putting a new ceiling 2298 01:38:38,310 --> 01:38:35,600 in the bunker tomorrow 2299 01:38:40,709 --> 01:38:38,320 yeah oh yeah awesome yeah new ceiling 2300 01:38:43,830 --> 01:38:40,719 new ceiling and uh 2301 01:38:46,550 --> 01:38:43,840 it's uh it's gonna be completely covered 2302 01:38:48,470 --> 01:38:46,560 uh with a sound deadening stuff and so 2303 01:38:50,950 --> 01:38:48,480 during the break if everybody's 2304 01:38:54,149 --> 01:38:50,960 wondering right i i i take a break i get 2305 01:38:57,430 --> 01:38:54,159 up i stretch my legs and i went and and 2306 01:38:59,350 --> 01:38:57,440 i opened up my my bass traps uh for the 2307 01:39:01,510 --> 01:38:59,360 corners of the room they're they're 2308 01:39:03,430 --> 01:39:01,520 inflating right now but i've got bass 2309 01:39:05,669 --> 01:39:03,440 traps man 2310 01:39:09,430 --> 01:39:05,679 man i'm just so psyched i've just got uh 2311 01:39:12,229 --> 01:39:09,440 an echo in here that i can't get rid of 2312 01:39:13,910 --> 01:39:12,239 and if i don't get it man yeah i 2313 01:39:15,910 --> 01:39:13,920 struggle with that too especially in 2314 01:39:18,550 --> 01:39:15,920 these little new york apartments you'd 2315 01:39:20,790 --> 01:39:18,560 think they'd be perfect for podcasting 2316 01:39:23,030 --> 01:39:20,800 but um i live a block from the subway 2317 01:39:25,270 --> 01:39:23,040 train so you hear it every two seconds 2318 01:39:27,830 --> 01:39:25,280 or you know i can't put things on the 2319 01:39:30,149 --> 01:39:27,840 wall because it's against like the rules 2320 01:39:33,030 --> 01:39:30,159 of the the building manager you know so 2321 01:39:34,709 --> 01:39:33,040 it's it's tough it's tough so i'm happy 2322 01:39:36,310 --> 01:39:34,719 you you get to do that the studio is 2323 01:39:40,629 --> 01:39:36,320 looking great oh man the studio is 2324 01:39:42,550 --> 01:39:40,639 awesome i mean it is just uh my daughter 2325 01:39:43,590 --> 01:39:42,560 was here yesterday she walked in oh my 2326 01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:43,600 god 2327 01:39:46,470 --> 01:39:44,880 you know and she 2328 01:39:48,870 --> 01:39:46,480 she's taking pictures sending them to 2329 01:39:51,510 --> 01:39:48,880 her friends and uh that was pretty cool 2330 01:39:54,070 --> 01:39:51,520 but yeah tomorrow the new ceiling base 2331 01:39:56,709 --> 01:39:54,080 traps in the corner and you know what 2332 01:39:58,470 --> 01:39:56,719 i'll get it all done and it won't it's 2333 01:40:00,149 --> 01:39:58,480 not going to fix anything that's just 2334 01:40:02,709 --> 01:40:00,159 how it goes 2335 01:40:04,149 --> 01:40:02,719 it's still going to be here 2336 01:40:07,830 --> 01:40:04,159 at some point it's going to be my 2337 01:40:09,109 --> 01:40:07,840 imagination i want to talk about gen z 2338 01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:09,119 uh 2339 01:40:17,510 --> 01:40:14,239 the points that i continuously make 2340 01:40:19,750 --> 01:40:17,520 on the air look i'm 58 okay and i used 2341 01:40:23,189 --> 01:40:21,750 think that i was the young guy in 2342 01:40:26,629 --> 01:40:23,199 ufology 2343 01:40:28,709 --> 01:40:26,639 and uh certainly going back you know 20 2344 01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:28,719 30 years that i've been doing this 2345 01:40:34,950 --> 01:40:32,400 there were all kinds of stories and and 2346 01:40:37,669 --> 01:40:34,960 i read something in one of the national 2347 01:40:40,149 --> 01:40:37,679 magazines about ufo conferences and how 2348 01:40:42,550 --> 01:40:40,159 they're attended by these blue hairs and 2349 01:40:45,109 --> 01:40:42,560 there's nobody young anymore and the 2350 01:40:47,189 --> 01:40:45,119 ufologies dying out and the conferences 2351 01:40:49,189 --> 01:40:47,199 well certainly none of that played out 2352 01:40:52,229 --> 01:40:49,199 but when i started uh 2353 01:40:53,189 --> 01:40:52,239 going to conferences um and and speaking 2354 01:40:56,149 --> 01:40:53,199 and things 2355 01:40:57,430 --> 01:40:56,159 what i did notice was that 2356 01:40:58,709 --> 01:40:57,440 i 2357 01:41:00,709 --> 01:40:58,719 was now the 2358 01:41:04,550 --> 01:41:00,719 i was the old guy there 2359 01:41:05,990 --> 01:41:04,560 there was a whole bunch of youngsters 2360 01:41:08,310 --> 01:41:06,000 running around 2361 01:41:10,070 --> 01:41:08,320 and it made me happy 2362 01:41:12,149 --> 01:41:10,080 of coming up to me and asking me 2363 01:41:13,189 --> 01:41:12,159 questions and they had this knowledge 2364 01:41:14,709 --> 01:41:13,199 base 2365 01:41:17,109 --> 01:41:14,719 you know and i was 2366 01:41:18,470 --> 01:41:17,119 how do you know about that right well 2367 01:41:19,830 --> 01:41:18,480 anyway 2368 01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:19,840 that is 2369 01:41:21,669 --> 01:41:20,880 uh 2370 01:41:23,189 --> 01:41:21,679 your 2371 01:41:26,149 --> 01:41:23,199 like you just said you're the old guy 2372 01:41:28,229 --> 01:41:26,159 now right you're you're the old guy what 2373 01:41:31,030 --> 01:41:28,239 do you what do you make 2374 01:41:32,950 --> 01:41:31,040 what do you make of the gen z generation 2375 01:41:36,310 --> 01:41:32,960 and are they 2376 01:41:38,790 --> 01:41:36,320 uh with disclosure right with the tic 2377 01:41:40,709 --> 01:41:38,800 tacs and now lulu elizondo comes along 2378 01:41:43,910 --> 01:41:40,719 and this report's coming out 2379 01:41:45,270 --> 01:41:43,920 and for that younger generation it felt 2380 01:41:46,790 --> 01:41:45,280 to me 2381 01:41:49,030 --> 01:41:46,800 that they 2382 01:41:50,470 --> 01:41:49,040 may be getting ahead of their skis a 2383 01:41:51,669 --> 01:41:50,480 little bit here 2384 01:41:53,590 --> 01:41:51,679 that 2385 01:41:55,590 --> 01:41:53,600 they may be expecting instant 2386 01:41:57,189 --> 01:41:55,600 gratification that they get from youtube 2387 01:42:00,910 --> 01:41:57,199 that they get from instagram that they 2388 01:42:02,950 --> 01:42:00,920 get from tick tock right and this this 2389 01:42:05,590 --> 01:42:02,960 instantaneous world 2390 01:42:08,709 --> 01:42:05,600 amazon delivering stuff the next day 2391 01:42:09,750 --> 01:42:08,719 right and and a million channels 2392 01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:09,760 that 2393 01:42:13,510 --> 01:42:12,080 they may be in for a little bit of a 2394 01:42:15,350 --> 01:42:13,520 disappointment 2395 01:42:17,270 --> 01:42:15,360 and i want to know if i have that wrong 2396 01:42:19,510 --> 01:42:17,280 do they understand that this is a 2397 01:42:21,510 --> 01:42:19,520 marathon and it's not a race 2398 01:42:25,830 --> 01:42:21,520 and disclosure wasn't going to happen 2399 01:42:28,070 --> 01:42:25,840 when the uap task force report came out 2400 01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:28,080 i think for the most part they do and 2401 01:42:31,669 --> 01:42:29,840 you know i think 2402 01:42:33,510 --> 01:42:31,679 and you hit the no on the head it's the 2403 01:42:36,709 --> 01:42:33,520 internet jimmy like i 2404 01:42:38,189 --> 01:42:36,719 i was just on the cusp of becoming like 2405 01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:38,199 a ufo 2406 01:42:43,510 --> 01:42:41,600 aficionado when uh aol was around and 2407 01:42:45,510 --> 01:42:43,520 stuff like that so i was getting in 2408 01:42:47,910 --> 01:42:45,520 right on the ground floor when you had 2409 01:42:51,430 --> 01:42:47,920 the chat forums and all that stuff going 2410 01:42:53,510 --> 01:42:51,440 on um and now we live in an age where 2411 01:42:55,669 --> 01:42:53,520 you can have instant access to any 2412 01:42:58,550 --> 01:42:55,679 information you want within a second and 2413 01:43:00,550 --> 01:42:58,560 the gen zers they know how to do that 2414 01:43:03,430 --> 01:43:00,560 they know where to go they know how to 2415 01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:03,440 do it inherently it's like built into 2416 01:43:08,709 --> 01:43:06,560 their dna since birth and i think they 2417 01:43:11,189 --> 01:43:08,719 we don't give them enough credit 2418 01:43:12,390 --> 01:43:11,199 sometimes uh you know 2419 01:43:14,870 --> 01:43:12,400 you'll say 2420 01:43:16,790 --> 01:43:14,880 uh they're too busy on their phones or 2421 01:43:18,629 --> 01:43:16,800 on their apps they're not reading books 2422 01:43:20,550 --> 01:43:18,639 they're not doing this or that and i 2423 01:43:23,590 --> 01:43:20,560 don't necessarily think that's true i 2424 01:43:24,470 --> 01:43:23,600 honestly don't um that being said 2425 01:43:26,950 --> 01:43:24,480 you know 2426 01:43:28,790 --> 01:43:26,960 once this whole new york times story 2427 01:43:31,350 --> 01:43:28,800 broke and uh 2428 01:43:34,790 --> 01:43:31,360 and i i can be honest this ufo twitter 2429 01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:34,800 thing became an actual thing 2430 01:43:38,149 --> 01:43:36,080 that um 2431 01:43:40,709 --> 01:43:38,159 became pretty damn big and is still 2432 01:43:44,149 --> 01:43:40,719 growing uh you did see 2433 01:43:46,950 --> 01:43:44,159 an explosion of newer people coming into 2434 01:43:49,430 --> 01:43:46,960 the conversation and excited about it 2435 01:43:53,109 --> 01:43:49,440 and look i was 2436 01:43:55,510 --> 01:43:53,119 already getting burnt out and i uh like 2437 01:43:56,629 --> 01:43:55,520 i said i'm not the young gun anymore but 2438 01:44:00,070 --> 01:43:56,639 i was 2439 01:44:01,910 --> 01:44:00,080 at one point and it's so good to see 2440 01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:01,920 people younger than me 2441 01:44:06,070 --> 01:44:04,159 being so excited about this topic 2442 01:44:09,109 --> 01:44:06,080 because look there's a reason you and i 2443 01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:09,119 do this it is a profound mystery that 2444 01:44:13,830 --> 01:44:11,440 could change humanity forever and i 2445 01:44:16,070 --> 01:44:13,840 think we are honestly on a path to 2446 01:44:17,750 --> 01:44:16,080 finding some of those answers 2447 01:44:19,510 --> 01:44:17,760 when it comes to disclosure that's a 2448 01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:19,520 whole other story you're right it's a 2449 01:44:23,189 --> 01:44:21,920 marathon it's it's gradual it's a 2450 01:44:25,350 --> 01:44:23,199 process 2451 01:44:27,430 --> 01:44:25,360 the younger people they want everything 2452 01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:27,440 right now they want it at their 2453 01:44:32,229 --> 01:44:30,560 fingertips and i think it's good when we 2454 01:44:34,470 --> 01:44:32,239 can have those conversations whether 2455 01:44:37,910 --> 01:44:34,480 it's someone from the old guard quote 2456 01:44:40,310 --> 01:44:37,920 unquote telling someone new like just 2457 01:44:42,310 --> 01:44:40,320 you know be patient be patient it'll 2458 01:44:44,390 --> 01:44:42,320 come just just look into this look into 2459 01:44:46,070 --> 01:44:44,400 this or you'll see someone on twitter 2460 01:44:48,950 --> 01:44:46,080 bringing up um 2461 01:44:52,950 --> 01:44:48,960 you know whoa did you guys know that a 2462 01:44:55,910 --> 01:44:52,960 ufo was seen over o'hare airport in 2006 2463 01:44:58,149 --> 01:44:55,920 this is insane and the older people say 2464 01:45:00,629 --> 01:44:58,159 yep yep we've been there already we 2465 01:45:01,669 --> 01:45:00,639 we've discussed it it's we've moved on 2466 01:45:03,590 --> 01:45:01,679 um 2467 01:45:06,229 --> 01:45:03,600 they haven't they're discovering this 2468 01:45:07,750 --> 01:45:06,239 for the first time ever and you know 2469 01:45:10,470 --> 01:45:07,760 every generation thinks they're the 2470 01:45:12,629 --> 01:45:10,480 first to you know make these grand 2471 01:45:15,350 --> 01:45:12,639 discoveries or revelations that's just 2472 01:45:17,669 --> 01:45:15,360 how the world works so let them have it 2473 01:45:20,629 --> 01:45:17,679 let them have those moments that we had 2474 01:45:23,430 --> 01:45:20,639 those epiphanies those revelations of 2475 01:45:24,229 --> 01:45:23,440 wow like there's something to this ufo 2476 01:45:26,470 --> 01:45:24,239 thing 2477 01:45:27,830 --> 01:45:26,480 so you know every time i see someone 2478 01:45:31,669 --> 01:45:27,840 bring up a case that's already been 2479 01:45:33,990 --> 01:45:31,679 debunked or or this or that um i've made 2480 01:45:36,950 --> 01:45:34,000 it a mission to not shame them or be 2481 01:45:38,790 --> 01:45:36,960 like that's a hoax you know you should 2482 01:45:41,030 --> 01:45:38,800 know that by now 2483 01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:41,040 no just let them figure it out let them 2484 01:45:47,750 --> 01:45:43,760 fail themselves or they won't learn from 2485 01:45:50,870 --> 01:45:47,760 it so um i have hope i i i'm excited 2486 01:45:51,830 --> 01:45:50,880 there's amazing younger people who are 2487 01:45:54,870 --> 01:45:51,840 really 2488 01:45:57,510 --> 01:45:54,880 tech savvy are very smart and they have 2489 01:46:00,470 --> 01:45:57,520 the luxury of just knowing 2490 01:46:03,350 --> 01:46:00,480 life exists out there somewhere even for 2491 01:46:05,430 --> 01:46:03,360 my generation that wasn't like a given 2492 01:46:07,910 --> 01:46:05,440 and i know for you and for many others 2493 01:46:10,709 --> 01:46:07,920 out there like these were conversations 2494 01:46:13,350 --> 01:46:10,719 these were huge debates and now you talk 2495 01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:13,360 to any scientist and 2496 01:46:17,910 --> 01:46:15,760 they say yeah mathematically it's got to 2497 01:46:20,149 --> 01:46:17,920 be out there it's it's there's just no 2498 01:46:23,350 --> 01:46:20,159 way it can't be and these generation 2499 01:46:25,270 --> 01:46:23,360 xers and and even the younger people 2500 01:46:27,430 --> 01:46:25,280 they already know that that 2501 01:46:29,430 --> 01:46:27,440 again it's inherently built into them 2502 01:46:32,229 --> 01:46:29,440 that that's a possibility whether it's 2503 01:46:34,070 --> 01:46:32,239 come here or not is a is a debate we 2504 01:46:37,669 --> 01:46:34,080 will continue to have until disclosure 2505 01:46:41,350 --> 01:46:37,679 happens how do we keep that uh your 2506 01:46:43,990 --> 01:46:41,360 generation and the younger it's look if 2507 01:46:47,270 --> 01:46:44,000 somebody was born after 1995 that means 2508 01:46:49,910 --> 01:46:47,280 they're 26 years old today 2509 01:46:52,310 --> 01:46:49,920 so you're right they were born into the 2510 01:46:53,669 --> 01:46:52,320 internet it was part of their lives from 2511 01:46:56,229 --> 01:46:53,679 the word go 2512 01:46:57,750 --> 01:46:56,239 we were introduced to the internet and 2513 01:47:01,510 --> 01:46:57,760 there's there's a different way of 2514 01:47:03,669 --> 01:47:01,520 looking at it but how do we 2515 01:47:04,950 --> 01:47:03,679 keep your attention 2516 01:47:07,189 --> 01:47:04,960 focused 2517 01:47:08,390 --> 01:47:07,199 you know uh you know to keep your eye on 2518 01:47:11,189 --> 01:47:08,400 the prize 2519 01:47:12,790 --> 01:47:11,199 and not oh okay this didn't happen it's 2520 01:47:14,950 --> 01:47:12,800 time to move on 2521 01:47:19,030 --> 01:47:14,960 right and yeah you know move on to a new 2522 01:47:25,910 --> 01:47:23,109 i think it really comes down to uh just 2523 01:47:27,990 --> 01:47:25,920 having the conversations you know we 2524 01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:28,000 live in an age where if you don't agree 2525 01:47:32,550 --> 01:47:29,440 with someone 2526 01:47:35,270 --> 01:47:32,560 it's either you cancel them or you block 2527 01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:35,280 them on social media and then 2528 01:47:42,390 --> 01:47:39,040 conversation's over you've essentially 2529 01:47:44,470 --> 01:47:42,400 won in a way but do any of us truly win 2530 01:47:45,990 --> 01:47:44,480 if the conversation isn't continuing 2531 01:47:48,470 --> 01:47:46,000 that's what i try to tell myself you 2532 01:47:49,910 --> 01:47:48,480 know i block so many people on twitter 2533 01:47:51,590 --> 01:47:49,920 that i don't agree with and then there 2534 01:47:53,590 --> 01:47:51,600 comes a point where i'm like 2535 01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:53,600 unblock let's see where we're at right 2536 01:47:58,149 --> 01:47:55,600 now let's see if maybe we can come back 2537 01:48:00,709 --> 01:47:58,159 together and have this this conversation 2538 01:48:02,870 --> 01:48:00,719 but you end up re-blocking you end up 2539 01:48:06,149 --> 01:48:02,880 re-blocking 2540 01:48:08,870 --> 01:48:06,159 data yeah you do you do i do it all the 2541 01:48:11,430 --> 01:48:08,880 time i'll unblock somebody for a day and 2542 01:48:12,950 --> 01:48:11,440 go ah maybe things have changed no they 2543 01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:12,960 haven't 2544 01:48:17,270 --> 01:48:14,960 right back to block status 2545 01:48:18,550 --> 01:48:17,280 um but yeah i because i think that that 2546 01:48:20,870 --> 01:48:18,560 is important 2547 01:48:23,030 --> 01:48:20,880 there's a reason why you know how long 2548 01:48:25,990 --> 01:48:23,040 is it tick-tock video 2549 01:48:26,790 --> 01:48:26,000 right oh god i don't even have tick-tock 2550 01:48:28,310 --> 01:48:26,800 but yeah 2551 01:48:30,470 --> 01:48:28,320 you know what i'm my age right now but 2552 01:48:32,310 --> 01:48:30,480 but it is you know you have this you 2553 01:48:34,629 --> 01:48:32,320 know you've got i don't even know i 2554 01:48:36,310 --> 01:48:34,639 don't want to show my age 20 seconds 2555 01:48:38,470 --> 01:48:36,320 right right i was going to say 60 2556 01:48:40,790 --> 01:48:38,480 seconds okay so 2557 01:48:43,270 --> 01:48:40,800 but that but that's the attention span 2558 01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:43,280 right if the if it was five minutes they 2559 01:48:47,910 --> 01:48:44,960 wouldn't get to the end of the video 2560 01:48:49,430 --> 01:48:47,920 well neither would i right so and i i 2561 01:48:50,310 --> 01:48:49,440 get that 2562 01:48:55,990 --> 01:48:50,320 the 2563 01:48:58,830 --> 01:48:56,000 on instantaneous uh whatever it is 2564 01:49:01,750 --> 01:48:58,840 satisfaction what is going on um 2565 01:49:05,430 --> 01:49:01,760 chemically where they need that fix 2566 01:49:06,149 --> 01:49:05,440 right if if the uaptf report didn't have 2567 01:49:07,109 --> 01:49:06,159 it 2568 01:49:12,149 --> 01:49:07,119 and 2569 01:49:19,109 --> 01:49:12,159 uh 2570 01:49:21,430 --> 01:49:19,119 how do we keep them and i think it's a 2571 01:49:22,790 --> 01:49:21,440 very important point one that our 2572 01:49:25,189 --> 01:49:22,800 generation 2573 01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:25,199 uh we understand the long haul we get it 2574 01:49:28,709 --> 01:49:27,280 we we do we've we've been through this 2575 01:49:29,430 --> 01:49:28,719 too many times 2576 01:49:31,669 --> 01:49:29,440 but 2577 01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:31,679 i don't know how to deal 2578 01:49:35,669 --> 01:49:33,920 with the younger generations i don't i 2579 01:49:38,390 --> 01:49:35,679 can barely deal with my with my 2580 01:49:40,790 --> 01:49:38,400 daughters right and and keeping up with 2581 01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:40,800 them and they're 26. 2582 01:49:45,910 --> 01:49:43,440 i'm being very serious too i'm being 2583 01:49:49,750 --> 01:49:45,920 very serious right now 2584 01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:49,760 well it it in it is a very serious uh i 2585 01:49:54,310 --> 01:49:51,840 wouldn't say issue it's just it's the 2586 01:49:56,550 --> 01:49:54,320 way the world is now we can't put the 2587 01:49:58,950 --> 01:49:56,560 genie back in the bottle and you know 2588 01:50:02,709 --> 01:49:58,960 what do we do we adapt we are creatures 2589 01:50:04,470 --> 01:50:02,719 of adapt adaptation and i think you know 2590 01:50:07,430 --> 01:50:04,480 what we have to keep in mind is and 2591 01:50:09,589 --> 01:50:07,440 you're right you know 60 second video or 2592 01:50:11,510 --> 01:50:09,599 binge watching tv you know i want the 2593 01:50:14,390 --> 01:50:11,520 whole season right now i don't want to 2594 01:50:17,109 --> 01:50:14,400 wait week to week for this i think what 2595 01:50:19,030 --> 01:50:17,119 we have to remind people of is that's 2596 01:50:21,510 --> 01:50:19,040 fine and maybe you're getting that in 2597 01:50:23,510 --> 01:50:21,520 your social media in your entertainment 2598 01:50:26,550 --> 01:50:23,520 but that's not how the government works 2599 01:50:28,629 --> 01:50:26,560 no the government works very slow right 2600 01:50:30,390 --> 01:50:28,639 very very slow right right you want 2601 01:50:33,510 --> 01:50:30,400 answers from the government you're gonna 2602 01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:33,520 have to wait it's like a giant freighter 2603 01:50:38,550 --> 01:50:36,239 like a giant aircraft carrier you don't 2604 01:50:41,589 --> 01:50:38,560 hit the brakes and make a left-hand turn 2605 01:50:44,229 --> 01:50:41,599 that thing is gradual 2606 01:50:47,189 --> 01:50:44,239 right i mean and you have to be patient 2607 01:50:49,189 --> 01:50:47,199 and but but i'm a victim of this too uh 2608 01:50:51,669 --> 01:50:49,199 you bring up a great point i 2609 01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:51,679 i want to binge something right now i 2610 01:50:57,189 --> 01:50:54,000 want the whole season in front of me 2611 01:51:00,070 --> 01:50:57,199 i will commit nine hour i will not sleep 2612 01:51:02,070 --> 01:51:00,080 i will stay up till 6 a.m but i i want 2613 01:51:04,870 --> 01:51:02,080 to do that and if i can't 2614 01:51:06,790 --> 01:51:04,880 if it's released you know week to week 2615 01:51:07,750 --> 01:51:06,800 i'll wait till the friggin season is 2616 01:51:10,070 --> 01:51:07,760 over 2617 01:51:13,510 --> 01:51:10,080 right yeah i won't watch anything i'll 2618 01:51:16,229 --> 01:51:13,520 wait till the end so i can get it all at 2619 01:51:18,229 --> 01:51:16,239 at one time and this is the world that 2620 01:51:19,750 --> 01:51:18,239 we live in today and there's another 2621 01:51:22,629 --> 01:51:19,760 point though 2622 01:51:24,790 --> 01:51:22,639 i think the gen zers 2623 01:51:26,550 --> 01:51:24,800 i'm just gonna say it 2624 01:51:30,070 --> 01:51:26,560 they like to fight 2625 01:51:32,629 --> 01:51:30,080 art of troll 2626 01:51:35,030 --> 01:51:32,639 they understand the art of instigation 2627 01:51:37,990 --> 01:51:35,040 they want to get under your skin because 2628 01:51:39,750 --> 01:51:38,000 for them it's sport and it's fun and and 2629 01:51:41,669 --> 01:51:39,760 it's the world that they're in 2630 01:51:43,430 --> 01:51:41,679 it's not my world 2631 01:51:46,149 --> 01:51:43,440 and uh 2632 01:51:48,550 --> 01:51:46,159 i i just don't go there but 2633 01:51:50,550 --> 01:51:48,560 the complaints that we have 2634 01:51:52,790 --> 01:51:50,560 from and i'm just saying it right now 2635 01:51:55,109 --> 01:51:52,800 gen zers listen to me 2636 01:51:56,070 --> 01:51:55,119 uh don't think i'm stupid 2637 01:51:57,510 --> 01:51:56,080 is that 2638 01:51:59,669 --> 01:51:57,520 uh you want to complain about the 2639 01:52:01,109 --> 01:51:59,679 infighting of the ufo community by 2640 01:52:03,510 --> 01:52:01,119 starting a fight 2641 01:52:05,350 --> 01:52:03,520 right wait wait a minute here you're 2642 01:52:08,870 --> 01:52:05,360 exactly 2643 01:52:10,229 --> 01:52:08,880 complaining about or putting the blame 2644 01:52:11,990 --> 01:52:10,239 on somebody else or somebody else 2645 01:52:14,229 --> 01:52:12,000 dividing the community 2646 01:52:16,390 --> 01:52:14,239 and and then pointing the thing and then 2647 01:52:17,270 --> 01:52:16,400 dividing the community 2648 01:52:19,750 --> 01:52:17,280 by 2649 01:52:22,470 --> 01:52:19,760 your trolling efforts and the 2650 01:52:24,550 --> 01:52:22,480 instigation that you are creating 2651 01:52:27,750 --> 01:52:24,560 you can't have it both ways 2652 01:52:28,950 --> 01:52:27,760 and and again i'm 58 am i completely off 2653 01:52:31,030 --> 01:52:28,960 base here 2654 01:52:32,790 --> 01:52:31,040 i'm not am i 2655 01:52:35,350 --> 01:52:32,800 i don't think so and you know we could 2656 01:52:38,070 --> 01:52:35,360 take this outside the ufo world and look 2657 01:52:39,830 --> 01:52:38,080 at society overall jimmy i mean we look 2658 01:52:42,709 --> 01:52:39,840 we're always looking for the next thing 2659 01:52:45,109 --> 01:52:42,719 to argue about 100 2660 01:52:47,350 --> 01:52:45,119 we are a microcosm of what is going on 2661 01:52:50,470 --> 01:52:47,360 in the world today and in social media 2662 01:52:53,030 --> 01:52:50,480 it doesn't matter nascar what meant kyle 2663 01:52:55,350 --> 01:52:53,040 or jimmy and the next thing you know 2664 01:52:58,149 --> 01:52:55,360 you've got a fist of cuffs in the stands 2665 01:52:59,589 --> 01:52:58,159 right it's it's no different right i can 2666 01:53:02,149 --> 01:52:59,599 only imagine 2667 01:53:05,270 --> 01:53:02,159 that nascar on reddit is probably the 2668 01:53:06,149 --> 01:53:05,280 ugliest thing that you can imagine 2669 01:53:08,149 --> 01:53:06,159 but 2670 01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:08,159 i remember when the biggest fight i 2671 01:53:12,709 --> 01:53:10,480 would have man was with my friends over 2672 01:53:14,870 --> 01:53:12,719 you know who's gonna win the uh or who's 2673 01:53:16,709 --> 01:53:14,880 gonna win wrestlemania the undertaker or 2674 01:53:18,470 --> 01:53:16,719 stone gold steve austin can you imagine 2675 01:53:19,510 --> 01:53:18,480 and now it's like can you imagine like 2676 01:53:24,070 --> 01:53:19,520 wwe 2677 01:53:27,189 --> 01:53:25,910 i don't even want to know i'm rewatching 2678 01:53:29,430 --> 01:53:27,199 all of it right now that's the only 2679 01:53:32,550 --> 01:53:29,440 reason i bring it up 2680 01:53:35,430 --> 01:53:32,560 peacock's got every wwe 2681 01:53:37,510 --> 01:53:35,440 pay-per-view raw smackdown if any of 2682 01:53:39,430 --> 01:53:37,520 your listeners are wrestling fans i 2683 01:53:43,109 --> 01:53:39,440 can't endorse it enough but that's 2684 01:53:45,430 --> 01:53:43,119 enough promotion for for nbc from me but 2685 01:53:48,470 --> 01:53:45,440 no you're right man um i think people 2686 01:53:52,149 --> 01:53:48,480 they look for fights and look 2687 01:53:55,030 --> 01:53:52,159 the ufo community the ufo conversation 2688 01:53:56,950 --> 01:53:55,040 is a place to have them because you are 2689 01:53:57,750 --> 01:53:56,960 dealing with such a 2690 01:53:59,510 --> 01:53:57,760 uh 2691 01:54:01,270 --> 01:53:59,520 sensitive topic 2692 01:54:04,229 --> 01:54:01,280 of beliefs 2693 01:54:06,870 --> 01:54:04,239 and you know ufos can can be considered 2694 01:54:09,189 --> 01:54:06,880 a religion a belief system and when you 2695 01:54:10,390 --> 01:54:09,199 get into religion man people get 2696 01:54:12,629 --> 01:54:10,400 passionate 2697 01:54:13,669 --> 01:54:12,639 about their conviction in what they 2698 01:54:16,550 --> 01:54:13,679 believe 2699 01:54:18,629 --> 01:54:16,560 and uh that's that's tough so i 2700 01:54:21,510 --> 01:54:18,639 understand why it's there and why it's 2701 01:54:23,189 --> 01:54:21,520 in the ufo community but it's it's 2702 01:54:24,790 --> 01:54:23,199 almost ironic because you're dealing 2703 01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:24,800 with a topic 2704 01:54:29,350 --> 01:54:26,560 that should be bringing humanity 2705 01:54:31,189 --> 01:54:29,360 together you know as ronald reagan would 2706 01:54:33,669 --> 01:54:31,199 say like what would bring us all 2707 01:54:37,910 --> 01:54:33,679 together an alien intervention of some 2708 01:54:39,189 --> 01:54:37,920 sort um so i just hope and i know that 2709 01:54:42,629 --> 01:54:39,199 while i might not have the same 2710 01:54:45,189 --> 01:54:42,639 political beliefs as um somebody else or 2711 01:54:48,149 --> 01:54:45,199 or whatnot uh that we can come together 2712 01:54:51,189 --> 01:54:48,159 on this topic and we do you know whether 2713 01:54:52,709 --> 01:54:51,199 i'm red blue in between i can have a 2714 01:54:55,990 --> 01:54:52,719 conversation with someone on the other 2715 01:54:56,870 --> 01:54:56,000 side of the aisle about ufos about these 2716 01:55:00,070 --> 01:54:56,880 things 2717 01:55:03,350 --> 01:55:00,080 and maybe even about politics eventually 2718 01:55:05,589 --> 01:55:03,360 but for now ufos are that glue that are 2719 01:55:07,589 --> 01:55:05,599 sort of keeping us together so all i can 2720 01:55:09,270 --> 01:55:07,599 say is to anyone out there don't go 2721 01:55:11,669 --> 01:55:09,280 looking for a fight look for a 2722 01:55:13,270 --> 01:55:11,679 conversation look for something you can 2723 01:55:15,189 --> 01:55:13,280 learn you're not going to learn anything 2724 01:55:17,189 --> 01:55:15,199 from a fight you're both going to come 2725 01:55:18,790 --> 01:55:17,199 out you know no what do they say nobody 2726 01:55:20,870 --> 01:55:18,800 wins in a head butt 2727 01:55:22,950 --> 01:55:20,880 like you're both gonna leave 2728 01:55:25,109 --> 01:55:22,960 dizzy and knocked out 2729 01:55:28,870 --> 01:55:25,119 that's a great point and it's so funny i 2730 01:55:30,550 --> 01:55:28,880 i i quit taking the bait uh a while ago 2731 01:55:33,350 --> 01:55:30,560 but it's it's just so funny you'll see 2732 01:55:36,790 --> 01:55:33,360 you'll see this this tweet so jimmy with 2733 01:55:38,709 --> 01:55:36,800 ufos man silver or gold oh that's 2734 01:55:40,950 --> 01:55:38,719 innocent enough 2735 01:55:43,350 --> 01:55:40,960 gold see that's what i'm on about and 2736 01:55:45,990 --> 01:55:43,360 then an immediate attack jimmy jimmy 2737 01:55:47,990 --> 01:55:46,000 church said gold and on his last show it 2738 01:55:50,950 --> 01:55:48,000 was silver and he brought somebody on 2739 01:55:52,950 --> 01:55:50,960 the show talking about silver he 2740 01:55:55,510 --> 01:55:52,960 that's it he's trying to divide i'm like 2741 01:55:57,750 --> 01:55:55,520 wait wait wait wait a minute 2742 01:56:00,470 --> 01:55:57,760 you know and i watch these things and 2743 01:56:04,070 --> 01:56:00,480 i'm just like how did we get here what 2744 01:56:05,830 --> 01:56:04,080 does even any of this matter 2745 01:56:08,229 --> 01:56:05,840 but they're looking for that 2746 01:56:11,189 --> 01:56:08,239 you know and it's really fun okay so 2747 01:56:13,109 --> 01:56:11,199 wendy wendy thank you so uh so much for 2748 01:56:16,870 --> 01:56:13,119 this just popped up in twitter you can 2749 01:56:19,510 --> 01:56:16,880 do three minute videos now on tick tock 2750 01:56:21,430 --> 01:56:19,520 oh yeah i did not know okay 2751 01:56:23,270 --> 01:56:21,440 now we can have actual conversations yes 2752 01:56:26,950 --> 01:56:23,280 attention span 2753 01:56:28,470 --> 01:56:26,960 has been expanded to three minutes 2754 01:56:30,390 --> 01:56:28,480 um jimmy that's the other thing man 2755 01:56:32,229 --> 01:56:30,400 twitter is not the place to have a ufo 2756 01:56:34,790 --> 01:56:32,239 conversation i tell people that all the 2757 01:56:36,950 --> 01:56:34,800 time with those 144 characters what 2758 01:56:39,350 --> 01:56:36,960 could you possibly say like if you want 2759 01:56:41,669 --> 01:56:39,360 to have those conversations get on skype 2760 01:56:44,310 --> 01:56:41,679 like you and i are doing call somebody 2761 01:56:45,589 --> 01:56:44,320 right like have those semi-human 2762 01:56:47,510 --> 01:56:45,599 interactions 2763 01:56:48,550 --> 01:56:47,520 rather than just being on your keyboard 2764 01:56:52,550 --> 01:56:48,560 all day 2765 01:56:56,790 --> 01:56:54,629 i'm just gonna go for it 2766 01:56:59,109 --> 01:56:56,800 since we're since we're here 2767 01:57:00,950 --> 01:56:59,119 it seems that and i don't think i'm 2768 01:57:04,790 --> 01:57:00,960 wrong here 2769 01:57:06,870 --> 01:57:04,800 that there are certain groups 2770 01:57:09,109 --> 01:57:06,880 of the younger generation 2771 01:57:11,910 --> 01:57:09,119 that want to 2772 01:57:14,470 --> 01:57:11,920 and don't have issues with 2773 01:57:17,310 --> 01:57:14,480 nearly deifying 2774 01:57:20,390 --> 01:57:17,320 and elevating and putting certain 2775 01:57:21,430 --> 01:57:20,400 personalities on a pedestal 2776 01:57:29,510 --> 01:57:21,440 and 2777 01:57:33,669 --> 01:57:29,520 that are on this elevated pedestal 2778 01:57:35,350 --> 01:57:33,679 position in a very uncomfortable spot 2779 01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:35,360 you know what i mean and now 2780 01:57:37,430 --> 01:57:36,480 yeah 2781 01:57:39,750 --> 01:57:37,440 that 2782 01:57:41,669 --> 01:57:39,760 i i observe this 2783 01:57:43,910 --> 01:57:41,679 and i see it and 2784 01:57:46,709 --> 01:57:43,920 and i don't know how to react to that 2785 01:57:49,030 --> 01:57:46,719 and it's a very dangerous position to 2786 01:57:51,990 --> 01:57:49,040 not only put themselves in because you 2787 01:57:54,390 --> 01:57:52,000 don't want to be let down but also uh 2788 01:57:56,709 --> 01:57:54,400 with who you're propping up there 2789 01:57:58,390 --> 01:57:56,719 you're putting somebody that probably 2790 01:58:01,510 --> 01:57:58,400 doesn't want to be there 2791 01:58:03,189 --> 01:58:01,520 right and and now 2792 01:58:05,109 --> 01:58:03,199 they have to watch what they say they 2793 01:58:07,109 --> 01:58:05,119 have to watch what they do 2794 01:58:09,350 --> 01:58:07,119 they have to what because now they're 2795 01:58:12,390 --> 01:58:09,360 gonna appear on a show or a program or a 2796 01:58:15,189 --> 01:58:12,400 movie or a tv series or whatever and and 2797 01:58:17,430 --> 01:58:15,199 then they have to stop and think about 2798 01:58:19,750 --> 01:58:17,440 you know what i mean and this is this is 2799 01:58:21,750 --> 01:58:19,760 a weird trend going on in the ufo 2800 01:58:24,470 --> 01:58:21,760 community 2801 01:58:26,950 --> 01:58:24,480 it is and you know again history always 2802 01:58:29,189 --> 01:58:26,960 repeats itself we've had these idols 2803 01:58:31,270 --> 01:58:29,199 around in the ufo community for 2804 01:58:33,910 --> 01:58:31,280 a long time they come and go but you're 2805 01:58:36,310 --> 01:58:33,920 right i think and you and i have had 2806 01:58:38,470 --> 01:58:36,320 individuals on our shows who we 2807 01:58:40,629 --> 01:58:38,480 respect and who we have really good 2808 01:58:43,270 --> 01:58:40,639 conversations with but the minute you 2809 01:58:45,430 --> 01:58:43,280 question them there's a fraction of 2810 01:58:48,950 --> 01:58:45,440 people on the internet who will 2811 01:58:51,189 --> 01:58:48,960 completely vilify you for saying one 2812 01:58:52,950 --> 01:58:51,199 not even saying a bad thing about them 2813 01:58:54,870 --> 01:58:52,960 but having a 2814 01:58:57,270 --> 01:58:54,880 criticism of something they might say or 2815 01:58:59,350 --> 01:58:57,280 a question of something they might say i 2816 01:59:01,990 --> 01:58:59,360 mean i remember a few weeks ago 2817 01:59:04,070 --> 01:59:02,000 i put out one innocent question about 2818 01:59:07,109 --> 01:59:04,080 something that um 2819 01:59:08,790 --> 01:59:07,119 that mr elizondo brought forward and my 2820 01:59:09,589 --> 01:59:08,800 god it was like i 2821 01:59:12,950 --> 01:59:09,599 you know 2822 01:59:15,510 --> 01:59:12,960 went to his house and killed his dog and 2823 01:59:17,990 --> 01:59:15,520 you know talked bad about his family or 2824 01:59:19,830 --> 01:59:18,000 something i was asking a question about 2825 01:59:21,750 --> 01:59:19,840 something he brought up so i think 2826 01:59:25,669 --> 01:59:21,760 you're right this happens 2827 01:59:27,750 --> 01:59:25,679 everywhere again um we tend to criticize 2828 01:59:30,229 --> 01:59:27,760 the ufo community because we're in it 2829 01:59:33,109 --> 01:59:30,239 but this happens everywhere in every 2830 01:59:35,189 --> 01:59:33,119 sort of community these the you have 2831 01:59:37,669 --> 01:59:35,199 these issues with people getting put up 2832 01:59:39,109 --> 01:59:37,679 on pedestals that the minute there's a 2833 01:59:41,589 --> 01:59:39,119 [\h__\h] in the armor 2834 01:59:44,310 --> 01:59:41,599 um you know it's gonna just 2835 01:59:46,629 --> 01:59:44,320 there's gonna be a war over it or we 2836 01:59:48,070 --> 01:59:46,639 want to see our idols fall look at 2837 01:59:50,709 --> 01:59:48,080 celebrities 2838 01:59:52,629 --> 01:59:50,719 in hollywood you know we we we make 2839 01:59:55,910 --> 01:59:52,639 these people out to be perfect 2840 01:59:57,030 --> 01:59:55,920 embodiments of humanity but we also want 2841 01:59:58,950 --> 01:59:57,040 to see 2842 02:00:00,310 --> 01:59:58,960 them get canceled fall back down to the 2843 02:00:02,390 --> 02:00:00,320 bottom you want to see him get canceled 2844 02:00:04,310 --> 02:00:02,400 you have to see him voted off the island 2845 02:00:05,350 --> 02:00:04,320 right 2846 02:00:07,430 --> 02:00:05,360 exactly 2847 02:00:09,270 --> 02:00:07,440 it's really a funny 2848 02:00:12,310 --> 02:00:09,280 i don't want to see elizondo fail i 2849 02:00:14,870 --> 02:00:12,320 think he's a a nice guy and he's done a 2850 02:00:15,750 --> 02:00:14,880 lot for this community and and whatnot 2851 02:00:18,070 --> 02:00:15,760 but 2852 02:00:20,950 --> 02:00:18,080 i of course am going to question 2853 02:00:23,669 --> 02:00:20,960 something that came from someone within 2854 02:00:24,550 --> 02:00:23,679 the intelligence community whose job it 2855 02:00:26,550 --> 02:00:24,560 was 2856 02:00:29,109 --> 02:00:26,560 to essentially 2857 02:00:30,629 --> 02:00:29,119 i don't want to say lie but to 2858 02:00:33,589 --> 02:00:30,639 spin things a certain way 2859 02:00:35,669 --> 02:00:33,599 counterintelligence that was his job so 2860 02:00:38,510 --> 02:00:35,679 you know i think people need to give you 2861 02:00:41,510 --> 02:00:38,520 leeway when you simply ask a question of 2862 02:00:43,109 --> 02:00:41,520 somebody for sure the whole situation is 2863 02:00:46,629 --> 02:00:43,119 comical to me 2864 02:00:49,189 --> 02:00:46,639 when uh now i'm i'm critical of of 2865 02:00:51,109 --> 02:00:49,199 everything of everything i don't i don't 2866 02:00:54,629 --> 02:00:51,119 care i'm critical of everything and i'm 2867 02:00:55,990 --> 02:00:54,639 cranky and i'm old and i observe and if 2868 02:00:58,870 --> 02:00:56,000 if i don't dig it or if there's 2869 02:01:02,229 --> 02:00:58,880 something i'm questioning i verbalize it 2870 02:01:03,830 --> 02:01:02,239 and that's it and lou elizondo all of 2871 02:01:05,510 --> 02:01:03,840 ttsa 2872 02:01:08,149 --> 02:01:05,520 um 2873 02:01:11,430 --> 02:01:08,159 just one thing that i was critical i'm 2874 02:01:14,709 --> 02:01:11,440 critical of everything um and yeah yeah 2875 02:01:17,350 --> 02:01:14,719 i took i took a lot of uh 2876 02:01:19,030 --> 02:01:17,360 uh observing uh 2877 02:01:22,629 --> 02:01:19,040 uh to the air 2878 02:01:24,629 --> 02:01:22,639 of of elizondo i did that he knew that 2879 02:01:26,629 --> 02:01:24,639 and when i 2880 02:01:29,189 --> 02:01:26,639 uh him and i 2881 02:01:30,950 --> 02:01:29,199 set up the show i have no issues with 2882 02:01:32,709 --> 02:01:30,960 lou i don't 2883 02:01:34,870 --> 02:01:32,719 but anyway 2884 02:01:36,470 --> 02:01:34,880 it was so funny because when i announced 2885 02:01:39,109 --> 02:01:36,480 lou coming on the show 2886 02:01:41,189 --> 02:01:39,119 and i'm watching twitter blow up and 2887 02:01:43,830 --> 02:01:41,199 everybody else and and read it and the 2888 02:01:45,030 --> 02:01:43,840 emails that were coming in and you know 2889 02:01:47,990 --> 02:01:45,040 lou is gonna 2890 02:01:50,629 --> 02:01:48,000 you know slap jimmy around you know 2891 02:01:52,870 --> 02:01:50,639 jimmy's gonna set lou straight 2892 02:01:54,870 --> 02:01:52,880 jimmy you know everybody's taking sides 2893 02:01:56,870 --> 02:01:54,880 lou and i on the other hand were on the 2894 02:01:59,270 --> 02:01:56,880 phone i remember ever like it was 2895 02:02:01,589 --> 02:01:59,280 yesterday lou they're expecting a war 2896 02:02:03,669 --> 02:02:01,599 well they ain't gonna get it ask me 2897 02:02:05,589 --> 02:02:03,679 whatever you want man let's let's 2898 02:02:08,790 --> 02:02:05,599 it's about time we finally got this done 2899 02:02:11,030 --> 02:02:08,800 but this is one show of many and and 2900 02:02:12,950 --> 02:02:11,040 and we were laughing in the background 2901 02:02:16,709 --> 02:02:12,960 about what was going on 2902 02:02:20,390 --> 02:02:16,719 in in in the social media world it was 2903 02:02:21,270 --> 02:02:20,400 funny to us and and to this day 2904 02:02:22,450 --> 02:02:21,280 um 2905 02:02:24,310 --> 02:02:22,460 uh lou 2906 02:02:26,629 --> 02:02:24,320 [Music] 2907 02:02:29,990 --> 02:02:26,639 lou and i laugh on the phone 2908 02:02:31,189 --> 02:02:30,000 about what is going on in the drama we 2909 02:02:32,950 --> 02:02:31,199 do 2910 02:02:34,149 --> 02:02:32,960 everybody's losing sight of the bigger 2911 02:02:34,950 --> 02:02:34,159 picture here 2912 02:02:36,149 --> 02:02:34,960 right 2913 02:02:37,990 --> 02:02:36,159 that's it 2914 02:02:39,669 --> 02:02:38,000 lou's been critical of me i've been 2915 02:02:41,830 --> 02:02:39,679 critical of him that's great you know 2916 02:02:45,189 --> 02:02:41,840 what we've done a lot of stuff together 2917 02:02:46,390 --> 02:02:45,199 and we're chasing answers 2918 02:02:47,430 --> 02:02:46,400 right 2919 02:02:50,790 --> 02:02:47,440 that's it 2920 02:02:53,669 --> 02:02:50,800 people 2921 02:02:55,910 --> 02:02:53,679 and that's not easy you know like i'm 2922 02:02:58,709 --> 02:02:55,920 sure you and i don't agree on certain 2923 02:03:01,430 --> 02:02:58,719 aspects of the ufo topic no i think but 2924 02:03:04,310 --> 02:03:01,440 i think anne berlin sucks by the way 2925 02:03:06,229 --> 02:03:04,320 exactly man now i'm going to cancel yeah 2926 02:03:08,709 --> 02:03:06,239 we're going to cancel rambling right 2927 02:03:10,629 --> 02:03:08,719 right right right all right 2928 02:03:12,629 --> 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02:08:55,119 ryan i spaced it 3046 02:08:57,910 --> 02:08:55,840 and 3047 02:08:59,109 --> 02:08:57,920 we got to give away tickets to the movie 3048 02:09:00,709 --> 02:08:59,119 premiere 3049 02:09:04,390 --> 02:09:00,719 this week so i got to take some phone 3050 02:09:08,470 --> 02:09:06,629 ryan sprague is our guest and if you 3051 02:09:10,950 --> 02:09:08,480 live in los angeles 3052 02:09:13,990 --> 02:09:10,960 and you want to come to the pasadena 3053 02:09:16,550 --> 02:09:14,000 film festival and see our worldwide 3054 02:09:18,149 --> 02:09:16,560 premiere on september 11th of our new 3055 02:09:19,510 --> 02:09:18,159 film it is called extraordinary the 3056 02:09:21,350 --> 02:09:19,520 revelations 3057 02:09:22,709 --> 02:09:21,360 give me a call i've got two tickets i'm 3058 02:09:24,790 --> 02:09:22,719 giving away 3059 02:09:27,669 --> 02:09:24,800 to two different callers 3060 02:09:30,470 --> 02:09:27,679 747-228-2051 3061 02:09:34,310 --> 02:09:30,480 got to live in los angeles well you know 3062 02:09:36,709 --> 02:09:34,320 palm springs uh but uh you've got to 3063 02:09:38,310 --> 02:09:36,719 come to the film festival all right 3064 02:09:40,229 --> 02:09:38,320 don't call in 3065 02:09:41,910 --> 02:09:40,239 get the tickets and not show up that 3066 02:09:44,069 --> 02:09:41,920 that ain't gonna be 3067 02:09:47,350 --> 02:09:44,079 uh that's that that'll be the last phone 3068 02:09:49,910 --> 02:09:47,360 call you ever make to fade to black 3069 02:09:51,189 --> 02:09:49,920 seven four seven two two eight two zero 3070 02:09:53,589 --> 02:09:51,199 five one 3071 02:09:55,350 --> 02:09:53,599 and uh now if you wanna talk to ryan uh 3072 02:09:56,709 --> 02:09:55,360 you can call in two as well of course 3073 02:09:58,310 --> 02:09:56,719 you know seven four seven two two eight 3074 02:10:01,910 --> 02:09:58,320 two zero five one 3075 02:10:03,830 --> 02:10:01,920 it is uh it's thursday night normally 3076 02:10:06,790 --> 02:10:03,840 fader night around here 3077 02:10:08,790 --> 02:10:06,800 uh we had to uh cancel 3078 02:10:11,750 --> 02:10:08,800 fader night because that's what a gen 3079 02:10:15,750 --> 02:10:11,760 zer would do oh i just got a um 3080 02:10:20,870 --> 02:10:15,760 i just got a text uh from christina 3081 02:10:25,669 --> 02:10:22,709 they're sensitive man 3082 02:10:27,350 --> 02:10:25,679 now she's texting me the uh the youtube 3083 02:10:29,750 --> 02:10:27,360 cam is off 3084 02:10:32,149 --> 02:10:29,760 christina are you trying to weasel your 3085 02:10:34,069 --> 02:10:32,159 way into producing this show are you in 3086 02:10:35,510 --> 02:10:34,079 the are you in the are you in the 3087 02:10:40,069 --> 02:10:35,520 youtube chat 3088 02:10:42,790 --> 02:10:40,079 scroll back if she's going to start 3089 02:10:45,270 --> 02:10:42,800 doing stuff like that you're not even in 3090 02:10:47,189 --> 02:10:45,280 the youtube chat tonight christina 3091 02:10:50,550 --> 02:10:47,199 i see you i will say christina is a 3092 02:10:53,430 --> 02:10:50,560 prime example of a good gen xer who no 3093 02:10:55,510 --> 02:10:53,440 she's amazing this topic seriously does 3094 02:10:57,830 --> 02:10:55,520 the research and builds off of the 3095 02:10:59,510 --> 02:10:57,840 shoulders of the the generation before 3096 02:11:02,229 --> 02:10:59,520 her yeah there's my shout out to 3097 02:11:06,470 --> 02:11:02,239 christina yeah no she's doing great she 3098 02:11:09,350 --> 02:11:06,480 is great and um i uh have been uh 3099 02:11:14,390 --> 02:11:09,360 hanging out on her show every week 3100 02:11:16,470 --> 02:11:14,400 and her her audience and and stuff 3101 02:11:19,990 --> 02:11:16,480 just mad props 3102 02:11:22,950 --> 02:11:20,000 um she has really really built something 3103 02:11:25,350 --> 02:11:22,960 and uh it it's just cool i love it i 3104 02:11:28,629 --> 02:11:25,360 love hanging out and i realize i'm the 3105 02:11:30,470 --> 02:11:28,639 old guy in the room and i always uh 3106 02:11:32,390 --> 02:11:30,480 thought about that what you know when 3107 02:11:34,149 --> 02:11:32,400 you when you're when you're 21 and 3108 02:11:36,229 --> 02:11:34,159 you're at the club 3109 02:11:38,550 --> 02:11:36,239 and you're with your friends and you see 3110 02:11:40,149 --> 02:11:38,560 the old dude come in and everybody's 3111 02:11:42,550 --> 02:11:40,159 talking man look at the old dude there's 3112 02:11:45,910 --> 02:11:42,560 an old dude in here 3113 02:11:49,030 --> 02:11:45,920 i'm that guy now right i'm that guy and 3114 02:11:50,950 --> 02:11:49,040 but they they're all that person or will 3115 02:11:53,270 --> 02:11:50,960 be that person jimmy don't take it 3116 02:11:55,830 --> 02:11:53,280 personally man well they have they have 3117 02:11:57,030 --> 02:11:55,840 uh they've let me in their little corner 3118 02:11:59,430 --> 02:11:57,040 of the world 3119 02:12:01,589 --> 02:11:59,440 and and i really enjoy hanging out with 3120 02:12:04,950 --> 02:12:01,599 them and i get it you know uncle jimmy 3121 02:12:06,470 --> 02:12:04,960 tell us another ufo story oh man really 3122 02:12:11,510 --> 02:12:06,480 that's who i am 3123 02:12:13,589 --> 02:12:11,520 funny all right seven four seven let me 3124 02:12:16,629 --> 02:12:13,599 uh let me make sure i've got the phone 3125 02:12:20,550 --> 02:12:16,639 lines open and uh seven four seven two 3126 02:12:22,950 --> 02:12:20,560 two eight two zero five one okay yes i 3127 02:12:25,470 --> 02:12:22,960 pulled that off phone lines are now 3128 02:12:28,629 --> 02:12:25,480 officially open 3129 02:12:32,550 --> 02:12:28,639 747-2282051 i'm giving away two tickets 3130 02:12:35,750 --> 02:12:32,560 to the pasadena film festival and it is 3131 02:12:38,709 --> 02:12:35,760 september 11th uh pretty cool man 3132 02:12:40,229 --> 02:12:38,719 i'm gonna i i bought some red carpet 3133 02:12:42,229 --> 02:12:40,239 i've rolled it up 3134 02:12:44,629 --> 02:12:42,239 and i'm gonna put it in the cheap yeah 3135 02:12:47,270 --> 02:12:44,639 no i'm gonna i'm gonna 3136 02:12:49,270 --> 02:12:47,280 i'm gonna walk me some red carpet man 3137 02:12:50,390 --> 02:12:49,280 i guess you should yeah you know i 3138 02:12:56,069 --> 02:12:50,400 should um 3139 02:13:01,189 --> 02:12:58,709 take those pictures 3140 02:13:03,109 --> 02:13:01,199 yeah yeah yeah blue steel get those red 3141 02:13:05,510 --> 02:13:03,119 carpet photos yeah yeah blue steel what 3142 02:13:06,870 --> 02:13:05,520 people want 3143 02:13:08,629 --> 02:13:06,880 blue steel 3144 02:13:10,790 --> 02:13:08,639 all right seven four seven two two eight 3145 02:13:13,750 --> 02:13:10,800 two zero five one 3146 02:13:15,350 --> 02:13:13,760 if you are in los angeles and again 3147 02:13:17,510 --> 02:13:15,360 uh no fader night tonight but we'll take 3148 02:13:20,390 --> 02:13:17,520 some phone calls with ryan too as well 3149 02:13:22,950 --> 02:13:20,400 747-228-2051 3150 02:13:25,350 --> 02:13:22,960 and uh let's let's go with that and 3151 02:13:30,950 --> 02:13:25,360 while that is cycling through 3152 02:13:33,350 --> 02:13:30,960 um where were we right before the break 3153 02:13:36,149 --> 02:13:33,360 oh gosh come on you're the show host 3154 02:13:38,870 --> 02:13:36,159 you're the show host right 3155 02:13:41,669 --> 02:13:38,880 i think we ended on um 3156 02:13:44,870 --> 02:13:41,679 you know the the squabbles of generation 3157 02:13:46,870 --> 02:13:44,880 x and looking for a fight 3158 02:13:48,950 --> 02:13:46,880 and and all that and how we all just got 3159 02:13:51,189 --> 02:13:48,960 to come back together god we're looking 3160 02:13:53,350 --> 02:13:51,199 for the same answers let's uh 3161 02:13:55,990 --> 02:13:53,360 let's include everyone yeah no no 3162 02:13:58,229 --> 02:13:56,000 question about it no question about it 3163 02:14:03,510 --> 02:13:58,239 uh oh we were talking about blocking 3164 02:14:05,189 --> 02:14:03,520 okay let's uh see who we have up first 3165 02:14:06,950 --> 02:14:05,199 hi you're live on facebook you're the 3166 02:14:09,750 --> 02:14:06,960 show host oh hold on 3167 02:14:11,750 --> 02:14:09,760 oh that's me i don't have uh 3168 02:14:14,629 --> 02:14:11,760 i don't have uh 3169 02:14:18,069 --> 02:14:14,639 okay that's my bad that's my bad that's 3170 02:14:20,149 --> 02:14:18,079 my bad okay you're live 3171 02:14:22,229 --> 02:14:20,159 hi jimmy's catalina 3172 02:14:23,990 --> 02:14:22,239 catalina how are you 3173 02:14:26,550 --> 02:14:24,000 i'm doing great 3174 02:14:27,990 --> 02:14:26,560 i'm calling ya it's been a long time 3175 02:14:30,310 --> 02:14:28,000 you're calling me because you're you 3176 02:14:32,550 --> 02:14:30,320 want free stuff 3177 02:14:33,510 --> 02:14:32,560 i will you know 3178 02:14:34,870 --> 02:14:33,520 i 3179 02:14:37,030 --> 02:14:34,880 always want to go to some of these 3180 02:14:39,270 --> 02:14:37,040 events but i can't ever go and this one 3181 02:14:43,510 --> 02:14:39,280 is close enough that i think i can go 3182 02:14:45,430 --> 02:14:43,520 catalina okay um you're down number one 3183 02:14:47,830 --> 02:14:45,440 i've got you right here 3184 02:14:50,950 --> 02:14:47,840 and do me a favor 3185 02:14:52,709 --> 02:14:50,960 and shoot me a quick email uh you've got 3186 02:14:54,550 --> 02:14:52,719 my email shoot me a quick email to 3187 02:14:57,270 --> 02:14:54,560 confirm your email 3188 02:15:00,629 --> 02:14:57,280 and uh the tickets are already there 3189 02:15:03,109 --> 02:15:00,639 okay and then uh we'll figure out stuff 3190 02:15:04,709 --> 02:15:03,119 uh uh 3191 02:15:09,270 --> 02:15:04,719 you know where to meet and get your 3192 02:15:11,750 --> 02:15:09,280 tickets on on saturday but you gotta 3193 02:15:13,750 --> 02:15:11,760 there's a trade-off here 3194 02:15:16,470 --> 02:15:13,760 okay what is it do you want chocolate i 3195 02:15:18,069 --> 02:15:16,480 do i want chocolate i want chocolate 3196 02:15:18,870 --> 02:15:18,079 i want to talk see 3197 02:15:22,310 --> 02:15:18,880 see 3198 02:15:23,669 --> 02:15:22,320 we're on the same page aren't we right 3199 02:15:26,550 --> 02:15:23,679 on 3200 02:15:28,550 --> 02:15:26,560 say hello fair trade say say hello to 3201 02:15:33,510 --> 02:15:28,560 ryan 3202 02:15:35,750 --> 02:15:33,520 hi it's nice to meet you what's this 3203 02:15:38,790 --> 02:15:35,760 about chocolate i want some chocolate i 3204 02:15:42,709 --> 02:15:38,800 can't hear him oh oh you can't hear him 3205 02:15:43,990 --> 02:15:42,719 okay well let me uh let me repeat 3206 02:15:47,350 --> 02:15:44,000 there's something going on with the 3207 02:15:49,510 --> 02:15:47,360 phone system uh with with the crosstalk 3208 02:15:53,270 --> 02:15:49,520 and technically you guys should be able 3209 02:15:55,750 --> 02:15:53,280 to hear each other okay so um but 3210 02:15:56,950 --> 02:15:55,760 uh ryan says what's the deal with the 3211 02:15:57,750 --> 02:15:56,960 chocolate 3212 02:16:00,550 --> 02:15:57,760 um 3213 02:16:01,430 --> 02:16:00,560 years years ago this is a long time ago 3214 02:16:02,790 --> 02:16:01,440 um 3215 02:16:11,270 --> 02:16:02,800 uh 3216 02:16:12,950 --> 02:16:11,280 event or who was there or anything but 3217 02:16:13,750 --> 02:16:12,960 that because that's none of that's the 3218 02:16:17,430 --> 02:16:13,760 point 3219 02:16:19,270 --> 02:16:17,440 but catalina uh shows up we're in a 3220 02:16:21,430 --> 02:16:19,280 we were in a bar 3221 02:16:23,830 --> 02:16:21,440 right yeah yeah yeah yeah 3222 02:16:26,790 --> 02:16:23,840 yeah we were we were drinking 3223 02:16:28,870 --> 02:16:26,800 and eating bar food and uh anyway she 3224 02:16:32,629 --> 02:16:28,880 goes jimmy i brought you a gift 3225 02:16:34,629 --> 02:16:32,639 i said what'd you bring she and she she 3226 02:16:38,070 --> 02:16:34,639 i don't know how many pounds 3227 02:16:41,589 --> 02:16:38,080 but it was a giant uh chocolate bar 3228 02:16:43,750 --> 02:16:41,599 that took me about a year 3229 02:16:44,950 --> 02:16:43,760 that took me a year but but i got 3230 02:16:47,830 --> 02:16:44,960 through it 3231 02:16:50,870 --> 02:16:47,840 um i did and that was that was the gift 3232 02:16:53,910 --> 02:16:50,880 and uh i will never forget that 3233 02:16:55,830 --> 02:16:53,920 and she sat next to me all night 3234 02:16:57,669 --> 02:16:55,840 she hung out with man that was a pretty 3235 02:17:01,110 --> 02:16:57,679 good table of people we had stanton 3236 02:17:03,509 --> 02:17:01,120 friedman was with us 3237 02:17:05,349 --> 02:17:03,519 yeah and stanton closed the bar you 3238 02:17:06,790 --> 02:17:05,359 remember that 3239 02:17:09,270 --> 02:17:06,800 absolutely 3240 02:17:11,429 --> 02:17:09,280 we had uh linda moulton howe 3241 02:17:13,990 --> 02:17:11,439 uh who uh 3242 02:17:15,910 --> 02:17:14,000 and we had fader knots from australia do 3243 02:17:18,070 --> 02:17:15,920 you remember that 3244 02:17:20,389 --> 02:17:18,080 absolutely it was a great night that was 3245 02:17:22,870 --> 02:17:20,399 a great night catalina well i've got you 3246 02:17:24,870 --> 02:17:22,880 down let me get uh let me give away the 3247 02:17:25,830 --> 02:17:24,880 other ticket i can't wait to hang out 3248 02:17:26,830 --> 02:17:25,840 with you 3249 02:17:29,190 --> 02:17:26,840 and 3250 02:17:30,349 --> 02:17:29,200 uh name of the what's the name of the 3251 02:17:31,990 --> 02:17:30,359 movie again 3252 02:17:34,230 --> 02:17:32,000 extraordinary 3253 02:17:36,870 --> 02:17:34,240 the revelations 3254 02:17:39,589 --> 02:17:36,880 the revelation and do you happen to know 3255 02:17:41,509 --> 02:17:39,599 which time spot because i went on the 3256 02:17:43,509 --> 02:17:41,519 tassina um film session they have 3257 02:17:45,669 --> 02:17:43,519 different time slots and movies but i 3258 02:17:47,910 --> 02:17:45,679 i'll look it up yeah i think it's i 3259 02:17:50,389 --> 02:17:47,920 think it's 6 p.m 3260 02:17:52,070 --> 02:17:50,399 okay 6 p.m i wrote that down awesome 3261 02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:52,080 well thank you jimmy i can't wait to see 3262 02:17:56,549 --> 02:17:53,920 you yeah it's going to be great to see 3263 02:17:58,629 --> 02:17:56,559 you catalina thank you so much 3264 02:17:59,589 --> 02:17:58,639 okay good night ryan too 3265 02:18:02,469 --> 02:17:59,599 all right i'll tell you tonight 3266 02:18:04,709 --> 02:18:02,479 congratulations okay bye-bye absolutely 3267 02:18:08,309 --> 02:18:04,719 and uh so 3268 02:18:10,790 --> 02:18:08,319 you can hear her but she can't hear you 3269 02:18:12,469 --> 02:18:10,800 absolutely bizarre yeah i don't know 3270 02:18:24,230 --> 02:18:12,479 what's going on with that 3271 02:18:28,629 --> 02:18:26,230 see here seven four seven two two eight 3272 02:18:30,549 --> 02:18:28,639 two zero five one i've got a crank 3273 02:18:33,830 --> 02:18:30,559 caller calling in you want to talk to a 3274 02:18:40,469 --> 02:18:33,840 crank caller watch this uh oh oh oh 3275 02:18:44,469 --> 02:18:42,469 i was going to let that one through i 3276 02:18:46,150 --> 02:18:44,479 was going to let that with her i love 3277 02:18:47,190 --> 02:18:46,160 hanging up on people 3278 02:18:50,950 --> 02:18:47,200 uh 3279 02:18:52,709 --> 02:18:50,960 okay i had a few calls lined up and 3280 02:18:55,270 --> 02:18:52,719 uh for some reason uh they've 3281 02:18:57,589 --> 02:18:55,280 disappeared which means okay oh the 3282 02:18:58,950 --> 02:18:57,599 crank caller is calling back in 3283 02:19:00,790 --> 02:18:58,960 watch this 3284 02:19:01,830 --> 02:19:00,800 this is gonna be funny it's gonna be 3285 02:19:03,270 --> 02:19:01,840 funny 3286 02:19:04,870 --> 02:19:03,280 hi you're live on fade to black who's 3287 02:19:07,669 --> 02:19:04,880 calling 3288 02:19:09,429 --> 02:19:07,679 hello jimmy this is william calamari 3289 02:19:11,190 --> 02:19:09,439 there's no such thing as a william 3290 02:19:13,190 --> 02:19:11,200 calamari 3291 02:19:14,629 --> 02:19:13,200 i'm on twitter like uh we message each 3292 02:19:16,389 --> 02:19:14,639 other i message ryan you actually 3293 02:19:19,669 --> 02:19:16,399 register it toured me like 10 minutes 3294 02:19:21,589 --> 02:19:19,679 ago oh you did you messaged ryan a few 3295 02:19:23,509 --> 02:19:21,599 minutes ago 3296 02:19:26,389 --> 02:19:23,519 he's not on twitter i put a message to 3297 02:19:28,070 --> 02:19:26,399 share your link to your youtube to the 3298 02:19:30,469 --> 02:19:28,080 stream right now because i'm watching it 3299 02:19:32,070 --> 02:19:30,479 so i wanted to share it with you ufo 3300 02:19:34,230 --> 02:19:32,080 twitter for everybody to watch it and 3301 02:19:36,549 --> 02:19:34,240 ryan returned to okay you got a great 3302 02:19:38,230 --> 02:19:36,559 accent where are you from 3303 02:19:39,429 --> 02:19:38,240 i'm in canada but i'm originally from 3304 02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:39,439 italy 3305 02:19:44,950 --> 02:19:42,960 yeah 3306 02:19:46,309 --> 02:19:44,960 i'm from the south 3307 02:19:48,469 --> 02:19:46,319 how far is that 3308 02:19:50,469 --> 02:19:48,479 is there a town 3309 02:19:54,230 --> 02:19:50,479 it's a tip of the top pretty much a 3310 02:19:55,830 --> 02:19:54,240 close to city to see across from the sea 3311 02:19:57,910 --> 02:19:55,840 okay 3312 02:20:00,630 --> 02:19:57,920 is the name of the town 3313 02:20:07,590 --> 02:20:00,640 i'm digging his twitter profile 3314 02:20:13,910 --> 02:20:10,790 okay all right so what's on your mind 3315 02:20:16,309 --> 02:20:13,920 where do you live now you're in canada 3316 02:20:17,830 --> 02:20:16,319 yeah i'm in alberta you're in calgary 3317 02:20:19,590 --> 02:20:17,840 okay all right so what do you have for 3318 02:20:21,349 --> 02:20:19,600 ryan 3319 02:20:23,429 --> 02:20:21,359 no i was listening to the conversation 3320 02:20:25,750 --> 02:20:23,439 the trainer was discussing and 3321 02:20:28,070 --> 02:20:25,760 about anjali and what could go wrong 3322 02:20:30,950 --> 02:20:28,080 about uh let it talk and let us say 3323 02:20:32,870 --> 02:20:30,960 whatever she wants but i see a lot of 3324 02:20:35,110 --> 02:20:32,880 people that get influenced in a negative 3325 02:20:36,710 --> 02:20:35,120 way and they get derailed and that's 3326 02:20:39,910 --> 02:20:36,720 what it worries me is if 3327 02:20:41,750 --> 02:20:39,920 any idea without any any thought any any 3328 02:20:43,110 --> 02:20:41,760 proposal out there without any evidence 3329 02:20:45,030 --> 02:20:43,120 get shared 3330 02:20:47,270 --> 02:20:45,040 people with that they're not really have 3331 02:20:49,270 --> 02:20:47,280 a good grip with reality they might 3332 02:20:51,830 --> 02:20:49,280 just get off the rail and 3333 02:20:53,830 --> 02:20:51,840 and start spreading rumors that might 3334 02:20:55,670 --> 02:20:53,840 confuse more people and give that bad 3335 02:20:59,110 --> 02:20:55,680 idea that all the ufo communities a 3336 02:21:05,429 --> 02:21:02,150 and and ryan you uh sorry i i had to 3337 02:21:06,469 --> 02:21:05,439 sneeze and i i hit the cough button 3338 02:21:07,349 --> 02:21:06,479 um 3339 02:21:09,910 --> 02:21:07,359 uh 3340 02:21:12,469 --> 02:21:09,920 he can't hear you but you can hear him 3341 02:21:13,429 --> 02:21:12,479 so you uh you were listening to his 3342 02:21:15,349 --> 02:21:13,439 points so 3343 02:21:17,110 --> 02:21:15,359 what yeah what do you think about that 3344 02:21:18,389 --> 02:21:17,120 with the ufo twitter and spreading 3345 02:21:20,870 --> 02:21:18,399 rumors 3346 02:21:22,469 --> 02:21:20,880 yeah no that is a very valid concern and 3347 02:21:24,389 --> 02:21:22,479 i'm glad he brings that up i mean i 3348 02:21:27,750 --> 02:21:24,399 struggle every day with jimmy when i go 3349 02:21:30,389 --> 02:21:27,760 to conferences or whatnot um 3350 02:21:32,710 --> 02:21:30,399 and speak to experiencers and and work 3351 02:21:35,590 --> 02:21:32,720 with them and talk with them and maybe 3352 02:21:36,309 --> 02:21:35,600 there are some people there who might 3353 02:21:37,349 --> 02:21:36,319 be 3354 02:21:40,950 --> 02:21:37,359 mentally 3355 02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:40,960 unstable or fantasy prone and uh you 3356 02:21:45,030 --> 02:21:42,560 always have that struggle in this field 3357 02:21:47,830 --> 02:21:45,040 of am i enabling this 3358 02:21:49,990 --> 02:21:47,840 and should i be spreading this and you 3359 02:21:51,030 --> 02:21:50,000 know it's not an easy 3360 02:21:53,750 --> 02:21:51,040 sort of 3361 02:21:55,910 --> 02:21:53,760 part of this field to navigate um so 3362 02:21:57,830 --> 02:21:55,920 when it comes to a situation like this i 3363 02:22:00,389 --> 02:21:57,840 completely understand like if this is 3364 02:22:03,110 --> 02:22:00,399 what gets out there let's say cnn picks 3365 02:22:04,630 --> 02:22:03,120 up the anjali story um it might not look 3366 02:22:07,910 --> 02:22:04,640 too good for the rest of the ufo 3367 02:22:10,230 --> 02:22:07,920 community um so that is a valid concern 3368 02:22:13,590 --> 02:22:10,240 um but like i said there's a timetable 3369 02:22:15,750 --> 02:22:13,600 for this so let's see what happens if it 3370 02:22:18,070 --> 02:22:15,760 doesn't happen we'll most likely never 3371 02:22:18,950 --> 02:22:18,080 hear from her again or she'll pop back 3372 02:22:21,270 --> 02:22:18,960 up in 3373 02:22:23,429 --> 02:22:21,280 you know five years like a lot of people 3374 02:22:25,670 --> 02:22:23,439 do in this field and have a whole new 3375 02:22:27,590 --> 02:22:25,680 story to tell and again i'm not saying 3376 02:22:30,230 --> 02:22:27,600 that is what this individual is doing 3377 02:22:33,190 --> 02:22:30,240 but it is a possibility so the the 3378 02:22:36,389 --> 02:22:33,200 concern of spreading misinformation or 3379 02:22:38,710 --> 02:22:36,399 disinformation is a valid concern um so 3380 02:22:40,790 --> 02:22:38,720 i do agree with the caller on that i do 3381 02:22:43,670 --> 02:22:40,800 um but all i can say is 3382 02:22:45,750 --> 02:22:43,680 you know it's just a story until she 3383 02:22:47,510 --> 02:22:45,760 brings the evidence to us so let's just 3384 02:22:50,550 --> 02:22:47,520 wait and see what happens it's all we 3385 02:22:53,030 --> 02:22:50,560 can do we can't stop her we can yeah 3386 02:22:54,950 --> 02:22:53,040 yeah yeah and and thank you for that and 3387 02:22:56,870 --> 02:22:54,960 and thank you for the call that's a 3388 02:22:58,309 --> 02:22:56,880 really good point enjoy the rest of your 3389 02:23:00,389 --> 02:22:58,319 night 3390 02:23:02,469 --> 02:23:00,399 thank you very much uh great show both 3391 02:23:04,870 --> 02:23:02,479 of you guys yeah yeah thank you man i 3392 02:23:06,630 --> 02:23:04,880 really appreciate it um 3393 02:23:07,469 --> 02:23:06,640 the uh 3394 02:23:10,070 --> 02:23:07,479 the 3395 02:23:12,469 --> 02:23:10,080 enabling part 3396 02:23:15,270 --> 02:23:12,479 i think what everybody 3397 02:23:17,429 --> 02:23:15,280 should always be aware of 3398 02:23:18,550 --> 02:23:17,439 and it doesn't matter with angeli or 3399 02:23:22,070 --> 02:23:18,560 anything else 3400 02:23:24,150 --> 02:23:22,080 is using a good amount of discernment 3401 02:23:26,870 --> 02:23:24,160 you have to do that inside of yourself 3402 02:23:28,230 --> 02:23:26,880 if if there is something that 3403 02:23:29,990 --> 02:23:28,240 bothers you 3404 02:23:31,750 --> 02:23:30,000 right and there's something inside of 3405 02:23:32,550 --> 02:23:31,760 you that is saying you know what before 3406 02:23:39,349 --> 02:23:32,560 you 3407 02:23:41,190 --> 02:23:39,359 goes with anything 3408 02:23:43,030 --> 02:23:41,200 and um 3409 02:23:44,950 --> 02:23:43,040 with all of the 3410 02:23:47,270 --> 02:23:44,960 man if we think about the last four 3411 02:23:49,270 --> 02:23:47,280 years five years of fake news and rumors 3412 02:23:51,429 --> 02:23:49,280 and conspiracies and and things that 3413 02:23:53,429 --> 02:23:51,439 have been generated and shared and and 3414 02:23:55,990 --> 02:23:53,439 videos 3415 02:23:57,990 --> 02:23:56,000 nobody used discernment right that was 3416 02:23:58,870 --> 02:23:58,000 reckless abandon 3417 02:24:02,710 --> 02:23:58,880 and 3418 02:24:04,950 --> 02:24:02,720 happened out there in social media 3419 02:24:05,910 --> 02:24:04,960 outside of the ufo community 3420 02:24:08,230 --> 02:24:05,920 um 3421 02:24:10,950 --> 02:24:08,240 that should be a lesson learned you know 3422 02:24:12,309 --> 02:24:10,960 to everybody right there about what and 3423 02:24:14,710 --> 02:24:12,319 what not to do 3424 02:24:16,710 --> 02:24:14,720 with sharing spreading rumors making 3425 02:24:19,349 --> 02:24:16,720 stuff up for sport 3426 02:24:22,389 --> 02:24:19,359 and and sharing that as a truth no you 3427 02:24:24,469 --> 02:24:22,399 can't do that stuff you need to practice 3428 02:24:25,670 --> 02:24:24,479 discernment i always say it's the other 3429 02:24:27,270 --> 02:24:25,680 big d 3430 02:24:32,150 --> 02:24:27,280 let's go back to the phones hi you're 3431 02:24:37,110 --> 02:24:34,630 you're live 3432 02:24:38,790 --> 02:24:37,120 hey jimmy yes 3433 02:24:42,070 --> 02:24:38,800 all right this is wild woodley from 3434 02:24:44,469 --> 02:24:42,080 alabama you remember me i i do not wild 3435 02:24:46,870 --> 02:24:44,479 willy but how you doing 3436 02:24:48,550 --> 02:24:46,880 well i'm doing okay look i had i'm the 3437 02:24:51,670 --> 02:24:48,560 guy that had the 3438 02:24:54,309 --> 02:24:51,680 sighting of the triangle or uh 3439 02:24:56,790 --> 02:24:54,319 ufo as i was on my way to work one night 3440 02:24:58,309 --> 02:24:56,800 and it went over me very slowly and it 3441 02:25:00,469 --> 02:24:58,319 had no sound 3442 02:25:02,309 --> 02:25:00,479 and i called you about it 3443 02:25:05,030 --> 02:25:02,319 as i lived up in the middle of alabama 3444 02:25:06,150 --> 02:25:05,040 while i moved back up here now okay but 3445 02:25:08,469 --> 02:25:06,160 uh 3446 02:25:10,469 --> 02:25:08,479 this is not a crank call okay i just 3447 02:25:12,469 --> 02:25:10,479 want to call you and tell you 3448 02:25:14,550 --> 02:25:12,479 i'm still out there i'm glad you're 3449 02:25:16,870 --> 02:25:14,560 still out there yeah right on willie 3450 02:25:19,270 --> 02:25:16,880 right on did you have anything for ryan 3451 02:25:24,630 --> 02:25:19,280 tonight 3452 02:25:27,830 --> 02:25:24,640 i'm sorry say again orion he's our guest 3453 02:25:29,670 --> 02:25:27,840 all right oh oh no 3454 02:25:31,830 --> 02:25:29,680 you didn't listen to the show you just 3455 02:25:33,750 --> 02:25:31,840 felt compelled to say hey jimmy it's 3456 02:25:34,950 --> 02:25:33,760 willie what's up man i'm just checking 3457 02:25:37,590 --> 02:25:34,960 in 3458 02:25:40,710 --> 02:25:37,600 oh okay sorry about that i'm old man i'm 3459 02:25:42,710 --> 02:25:40,720 74 years old 3460 02:25:45,429 --> 02:25:42,720 you all talking about the old and the 3461 02:25:46,790 --> 02:25:45,439 young ones you got no idea yeah yeah 3462 02:25:49,270 --> 02:25:46,800 you're scared a little bit you'll know 3463 02:25:50,950 --> 02:25:49,280 what old is yeah i know i know i'm right 3464 02:25:53,110 --> 02:25:50,960 behind you though willie don't don't 3465 02:25:55,670 --> 02:25:53,120 even think i don't understand 3466 02:25:57,270 --> 02:25:55,680 i'm right there i'm looking at 74 right 3467 02:25:59,830 --> 02:25:57,280 down the barrel man 3468 02:26:02,309 --> 02:25:59,840 really enjoy 3469 02:26:04,150 --> 02:26:02,319 at the same thought in the road where i 3470 02:26:07,429 --> 02:26:04,160 saw the ufo 3471 02:26:09,510 --> 02:26:07,439 i also later on saw it cryptid 3472 02:26:11,990 --> 02:26:09,520 that ran across the road in front of me 3473 02:26:13,750 --> 02:26:12,000 it looked like a huge dog but it had 3474 02:26:15,990 --> 02:26:13,760 like a wolf's mane 3475 02:26:18,790 --> 02:26:16,000 and uh i talked to you about a couple 3476 02:26:21,830 --> 02:26:18,800 times and i was gonna go back up there i 3477 02:26:24,070 --> 02:26:21,840 remember that yes i remember you now 3478 02:26:25,510 --> 02:26:24,080 willie okay yeah it's been a while it's 3479 02:26:27,910 --> 02:26:25,520 been a minute 3480 02:26:31,590 --> 02:26:27,920 yeah well a lot's gone on man i lost my 3481 02:26:34,070 --> 02:26:31,600 wife for 54 years and got married again 3482 02:26:35,590 --> 02:26:34,080 so you know a lot more water goes under 3483 02:26:37,910 --> 02:26:35,600 the bridge but 3484 02:26:39,750 --> 02:26:37,920 uh i tend to go back up there it's not 3485 02:26:41,349 --> 02:26:39,760 far from where a friend of mine lives 3486 02:26:43,270 --> 02:26:41,359 and do some more looking around i 3487 02:26:46,630 --> 02:26:43,280 actually think there's a portal 3488 02:26:48,550 --> 02:26:46,640 that comes that is north of the highway 3489 02:26:50,870 --> 02:26:48,560 and uh because both of these things came 3490 02:26:53,190 --> 02:26:50,880 from there and were headed south 3491 02:26:54,710 --> 02:26:53,200 and uh the cryptid when it went across 3492 02:26:56,389 --> 02:26:54,720 the road and it just turned his head and 3493 02:26:57,590 --> 02:26:56,399 looked at me and looked back and kept on 3494 02:27:00,150 --> 02:26:57,600 going 3495 02:27:02,230 --> 02:27:00,160 and i'm glad because it scared me 3496 02:27:03,910 --> 02:27:02,240 i mean i was just a security guard i had 3497 02:27:05,910 --> 02:27:03,920 my weapon but i don't think a weapon 3498 02:27:09,750 --> 02:27:05,920 would have helped against it 3499 02:27:12,550 --> 02:27:09,760 but hey willie next week uh 3500 02:27:13,910 --> 02:27:12,560 here on the show we have dr matthew 3501 02:27:15,670 --> 02:27:13,920 johnson 3502 02:27:18,389 --> 02:27:15,680 and you're not going to want to miss 3503 02:27:19,349 --> 02:27:18,399 that show you got to listen and uh 3504 02:27:21,830 --> 02:27:19,359 uh 3505 02:27:25,429 --> 02:27:21,840 and check out what matthew has to say 3506 02:27:27,830 --> 02:27:25,439 he's right in your side of the fence 3507 02:27:29,590 --> 02:27:27,840 when it comes to this stuff okay so 3508 02:27:31,750 --> 02:27:29,600 don't miss that show i gotta get to a 3509 02:27:33,429 --> 02:27:31,760 commercial break willie thank you so 3510 02:27:35,990 --> 02:27:33,439 much for checking in it's great to hear 3511 02:27:37,990 --> 02:27:36,000 your voice i remember everything now the 3512 02:27:41,270 --> 02:27:38,000 black triangle and 3513 02:27:42,630 --> 02:27:41,280 and uh the black uh the black thing 3514 02:27:44,790 --> 02:27:42,640 running across the street in front of 3515 02:27:47,830 --> 02:27:44,800 you i remember all of that willie 3516 02:27:49,349 --> 02:27:47,840 enjoy your weekend this is my friday and 3517 02:27:50,790 --> 02:27:49,359 thank you for the phone call man i 3518 02:27:53,590 --> 02:27:50,800 really appreciate it 3519 02:27:55,270 --> 02:27:53,600 and uh with that i i got to give away 3520 02:27:57,110 --> 02:27:55,280 one more ticket man 3521 02:27:58,710 --> 02:27:57,120 i got to give away one more ticket let's 3522 02:28:01,030 --> 02:27:58,720 see if i can do it 3523 02:28:02,710 --> 02:28:01,040 right here man the calls are flooding in 3524 02:28:03,590 --> 02:28:02,720 you need to be in la 3525 02:28:07,510 --> 02:28:03,600 um 3526 02:28:08,950 --> 02:28:07,520 uh area codes mean nothing these days so 3527 02:28:10,870 --> 02:28:08,960 let's uh 3528 02:28:12,630 --> 02:28:10,880 let's let's go let's see what i have 3529 02:28:15,110 --> 02:28:12,640 here hi you're live i'm fade to black 3530 02:28:17,270 --> 02:28:15,120 who's calling 3531 02:28:19,110 --> 02:28:17,280 dave this is from new england 3532 02:28:21,270 --> 02:28:19,120 new england i'm trying to give away a 3533 02:28:22,950 --> 02:28:21,280 ticket to the pasadena film festival 3534 02:28:27,590 --> 02:28:22,960 yeah 3535 02:28:29,830 --> 02:28:27,600 you have to hit those to somebody else 3536 02:28:31,910 --> 02:28:29,840 okay all right so real quick uh what 3537 02:28:35,349 --> 02:28:31,920 have you got 3538 02:28:36,950 --> 02:28:35,359 listen uh 1986 the alicia's adapt was 3539 02:28:38,790 --> 02:28:36,960 really cool nothing better than two inch 3540 02:28:41,110 --> 02:28:38,800 tape at 30 ips 3541 02:28:42,389 --> 02:28:41,120 that's a good call right there and uh 3542 02:28:46,070 --> 02:28:42,399 was it nice yeah 3543 02:28:49,030 --> 02:28:46,080 it wasn't 1986 it'd be more like 1994 3544 02:28:51,510 --> 02:28:49,040 no 96 no more like yeah mid 90s 3545 02:28:53,110 --> 02:28:51,520 yeah there you go yeah that was that was 3546 02:28:56,070 --> 02:28:53,120 pretty cool stuff 3547 02:28:58,150 --> 02:28:56,080 uh nice innovation but yeah just analog 3548 02:29:00,870 --> 02:28:58,160 is just the way it's at keeps going back 3549 02:29:03,030 --> 02:29:00,880 to it now yep yep yep yep two 3550 02:29:04,309 --> 02:29:03,040 compressors everything 3551 02:29:06,230 --> 02:29:04,319 oh man 3552 02:29:09,670 --> 02:29:06,240 this is a great phone call nobody knows 3553 02:29:12,070 --> 02:29:09,680 what you're talking about but i love it 3554 02:29:13,030 --> 02:29:12,080 yeah it's cool i'm loving it yeah enjoy 3555 02:29:15,750 --> 02:29:13,040 it 3556 02:29:17,510 --> 02:29:15,760 exactly enjoy your weekend and uh i used 3557 02:29:19,510 --> 02:29:17,520 to work for a company called alesis and 3558 02:29:22,070 --> 02:29:19,520 they made a product called the adat 3559 02:29:25,590 --> 02:29:22,080 which was a digital recorder and it 3560 02:29:29,429 --> 02:29:25,600 totally shut down the analog industry 3561 02:29:32,389 --> 02:29:29,439 and uh but but it it it brought in the 3562 02:29:34,870 --> 02:29:32,399 world of digital recording and home 3563 02:29:37,750 --> 02:29:34,880 recording and i was i was part of that 3564 02:29:39,750 --> 02:29:37,760 but i'm old school two inch is uh two 3565 02:29:41,349 --> 02:29:39,760 inch analog tape is the only way to go 3566 02:29:42,469 --> 02:29:41,359 okay let's do one more phone call hi 3567 02:29:44,469 --> 02:29:42,479 you're live on fade to black who's 3568 02:29:47,110 --> 02:29:44,479 calling 3569 02:29:49,270 --> 02:29:47,120 hey jimmy it's carrie in palm springs 3570 02:29:50,710 --> 02:29:49,280 how are you i'm gonna be doing great if 3571 02:29:54,309 --> 02:29:50,720 you're going to come out and hang out 3572 02:29:56,710 --> 02:29:54,319 with me at the pasadena film festival 3573 02:29:58,790 --> 02:29:56,720 do you have one more ticket left for me 3574 02:30:00,150 --> 02:29:58,800 to win i do 3575 02:30:02,070 --> 02:30:00,160 carry 3576 02:30:07,270 --> 02:30:02,080 that's what i'm talking about 3577 02:30:09,270 --> 02:30:07,280 it's going to be so great uh not only to 3578 02:30:10,950 --> 02:30:09,280 see you but you're going to hang out 3579 02:30:12,870 --> 02:30:10,960 with catalina and you're going to meet 3580 02:30:15,670 --> 02:30:12,880 everybody from the movie 3581 02:30:18,710 --> 02:30:15,680 and and you and i can go and and and do 3582 02:30:21,030 --> 02:30:18,720 stuff so just thank you i've i've um 3583 02:30:23,150 --> 02:30:21,040 i've got to go to a break but do me a 3584 02:30:24,790 --> 02:30:23,160 favor 3585 02:30:27,429 --> 02:30:24,800 pasadenafilmfestival.com 3586 02:30:28,309 --> 02:30:27,439 saturday i believe our film is scheduled 3587 02:30:30,550 --> 02:30:28,319 uh 3588 02:30:33,030 --> 02:30:30,560 you know the name and everything um 3589 02:30:34,230 --> 02:30:33,040 uh extraordinary the revelations at 6 00 3590 02:30:38,550 --> 02:30:34,240 p.m 3591 02:30:40,710 --> 02:30:38,560 saturday the 11th the ticket is yours 3592 02:30:42,550 --> 02:30:40,720 there you go and i cannot wait to see 3593 02:30:45,590 --> 02:30:42,560 you my friend um 3594 02:30:48,230 --> 02:30:45,600 i can't wait thank you so much 3595 02:30:50,309 --> 02:30:48,240 i'm so excited you know i love film i 3596 02:30:52,230 --> 02:30:50,319 know i know i know i know and you're 3597 02:30:53,990 --> 02:30:52,240 gonna love this film 3598 02:30:55,750 --> 02:30:54,000 you know what you know what's funny you 3599 02:30:57,349 --> 02:30:55,760 listen to fade to black enough and then 3600 02:31:00,389 --> 02:30:57,359 you're gonna listen you're gonna watch 3601 02:31:03,990 --> 02:31:00,399 this film and have my narration 3602 02:31:07,750 --> 02:31:04,000 in your ear for two hours 3603 02:31:10,870 --> 02:31:07,760 i'm so excited oh wait thank you so much 3604 02:31:13,510 --> 02:31:10,880 nails on a chalkboard carrie nails on a 3605 02:31:16,309 --> 02:31:13,520 chalkboard but i'll see you saturday 3606 02:31:17,990 --> 02:31:16,319 september 11. thank you so much 3607 02:31:20,870 --> 02:31:18,000 thank you say 3608 02:31:22,950 --> 02:31:20,880 say say good night to ryan 3609 02:31:24,790 --> 02:31:22,960 good night ryan you're the best we love 3610 02:31:28,870 --> 02:31:24,800 you 3611 02:31:30,870 --> 02:31:28,880 she can hear me yeah i think she can 3612 02:31:31,990 --> 02:31:30,880 thank you carrie and uh enjoy your 3613 02:31:34,630 --> 02:31:32,000 weekend 3614 02:31:37,110 --> 02:31:34,640 shoot me an email okay 3615 02:31:38,710 --> 02:31:37,120 okay thanks jimmy 3616 02:31:41,670 --> 02:31:38,720 fade to black 3617 02:31:45,030 --> 02:31:41,680 carrie and palm springs so i got carrie 3618 02:31:47,429 --> 02:31:45,040 and catalina uh coming congratulations 3619 02:31:49,190 --> 02:31:47,439 uh to the both of you uh coming out to 3620 02:31:51,349 --> 02:31:49,200 the film festival you guys are gonna 3621 02:31:53,670 --> 02:31:51,359 enjoy the film and it's gonna be great 3622 02:31:55,830 --> 02:31:53,680 hanging out with you and and brad and 3623 02:31:57,190 --> 02:31:55,840 michelle you know brad my photographer 3624 02:31:58,870 --> 02:31:57,200 is going to be there 3625 02:32:01,190 --> 02:31:58,880 and uh so we'll be able to take some 3626 02:32:02,550 --> 02:32:01,200 pictures together and everything else um 3627 02:32:04,550 --> 02:32:02,560 i'm going to take a break ryan you want 3628 02:32:07,670 --> 02:32:04,560 to hang out you want to continue what 3629 02:32:09,510 --> 02:32:07,680 have you got to do tomorrow 3630 02:32:11,270 --> 02:32:09,520 what what do i got tomorrow saturday i'm 3631 02:32:14,070 --> 02:32:11,280 doing some stuff later in the day let's 3632 02:32:15,510 --> 02:32:14,080 do it man well tomorrow's friday but 3633 02:32:17,190 --> 02:32:15,520 that's okay 3634 02:32:19,270 --> 02:32:17,200 i don't oh my gosh i'm looking at my 3635 02:32:22,309 --> 02:32:19,280 clock here it's friday already it's 12 3636 02:32:25,110 --> 02:32:22,319 28 am i i forgot i was on the east coast 3637 02:32:27,830 --> 02:32:25,120 i forgot where i was 3638 02:32:30,469 --> 02:32:27,840 i love it overtime is next with ryan 3639 02:32:32,389 --> 02:32:30,479 sprague look that's what happens when uh 3640 02:32:33,990 --> 02:32:32,399 you get canceled on monday now he's got 3641 02:32:36,070 --> 02:32:34,000 more to say we'll do all of that when we 3642 02:32:38,000 --> 02:32:36,080 come back this is faded black i'm really 3643 02:32:59,349 --> 02:32:38,010 super church stay with us 3644 02:33:01,670 --> 02:32:59,359 [Music] 3645 02:33:04,550 --> 02:33:01,680 hey what up y'all biblical fox here and 3646 02:33:08,870 --> 02:33:04,560 you are listening to my boy jimmy church 3647 02:33:17,930 --> 02:33:11,429 despite popular opinion 3648 02:33:21,910 --> 02:33:19,990 [Applause] 3649 02:33:24,870 --> 02:33:21,920 is jimmy church of fade to black and i 3650 02:33:27,510 --> 02:33:24,880 take life change t supplements every 3651 02:33:28,950 --> 02:33:27,520 single day it's what i do 3652 02:33:31,670 --> 02:33:28,960 click on their banner at 3653 02:33:33,910 --> 02:33:31,680 jimmychurchradio.com 3654 02:33:36,070 --> 02:33:33,920 this is jimmy church and i invite 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02:36:48,710 --> 02:36:45,920 you'll find a great selection of talk 3726 02:36:51,349 --> 02:36:48,720 shows covering ufos ghosts strange 3727 02:36:53,670 --> 02:36:51,359 phenomena and much more download the 3728 02:36:55,670 --> 02:36:53,680 paranormal radio app now and start 3729 02:36:57,910 --> 02:36:55,680 listening to the very best in paranormal 3730 02:36:59,670 --> 02:36:57,920 talk entertainment including the network 3731 02:37:02,870 --> 02:36:59,680 you're listening to right now the 3732 02:37:13,590 --> 02:37:02,880 paranormal radio app free in google play 3733 02:37:25,910 --> 02:37:16,630 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3734 02:37:25,920 --> 02:37:32,090 this is kjcr jimmychurchradio.com 3735 02:37:32,100 --> 02:37:44,389 [Music] 3736 02:37:49,510 --> 02:37:47,429 all right welcome back fade to black 3737 02:37:50,550 --> 02:37:49,520 during the break i'm unpacking my bass 3738 02:37:52,550 --> 02:37:50,560 traps 3739 02:37:55,510 --> 02:37:52,560 i cannot wait for tomorrow new ceiling 3740 02:37:57,429 --> 02:37:55,520 going in base traps in the corners 3741 02:38:00,550 --> 02:37:57,439 not gonna do nothing but it's gonna look 3742 02:38:03,270 --> 02:38:00,560 good and you know it's uh better to look 3743 02:38:05,590 --> 02:38:03,280 good than to feel good and that's always 3744 02:38:06,469 --> 02:38:05,600 uh that's always the way i look at life 3745 02:38:09,910 --> 02:38:06,479 ryan 3746 02:38:11,750 --> 02:38:09,920 now um i listen there is uh 3747 02:38:13,190 --> 02:38:11,760 a question that popped up this is from 3748 02:38:14,550 --> 02:38:13,200 ken 3749 02:38:15,429 --> 02:38:14,560 and uh 3750 02:38:20,309 --> 02:38:15,439 uh 3751 02:38:21,750 --> 02:38:20,319 saw this on twitter but he says he says 3752 02:38:24,790 --> 02:38:21,760 ryan 3753 02:38:26,830 --> 02:38:24,800 what's the coolest factoid about ufos 3754 02:38:28,870 --> 02:38:26,840 you can drop on us 3755 02:38:30,150 --> 02:38:28,880 tonight oh 3756 02:38:31,990 --> 02:38:30,160 man 3757 02:38:32,790 --> 02:38:32,000 that is some pressure yeah it's pressure 3758 02:38:35,590 --> 02:38:32,800 man 3759 02:38:38,150 --> 02:38:35,600 i'm i'm on the edge of my seat 3760 02:38:38,160 --> 02:38:40,950 let's see 3761 02:38:46,230 --> 02:38:43,030 all right i got i got one for you guys i 3762 02:38:48,070 --> 02:38:46,240 think i think um i hope i can 3763 02:38:49,670 --> 02:38:48,080 i want to do this without getting in 3764 02:38:50,950 --> 02:38:49,680 trouble 3765 02:38:53,590 --> 02:38:50,960 um 3766 02:38:55,910 --> 02:38:53,600 so there's been a lot of talk i think in 3767 02:38:58,950 --> 02:38:55,920 the uh you know the ufo sphere about 3768 02:39:01,750 --> 02:38:58,960 this um this triangle photo right 3769 02:39:04,630 --> 02:39:01,760 this thing coming out of the water yep 3770 02:39:06,710 --> 02:39:04,640 as supposedly we were supposed to see it 3771 02:39:08,950 --> 02:39:06,720 at some point or at least 3772 02:39:13,750 --> 02:39:08,960 congress saw it in the classified uap 3773 02:39:16,389 --> 02:39:13,760 report allegedly and it allegedly and 3774 02:39:18,710 --> 02:39:16,399 what happened we never saw it never came 3775 02:39:21,349 --> 02:39:18,720 nothing um 3776 02:39:24,950 --> 02:39:21,359 i've been working on an article now for 3777 02:39:27,670 --> 02:39:24,960 about a year jimmy a freaking year 3778 02:39:28,950 --> 02:39:27,680 on this thing um have you seen all about 3779 02:39:33,990 --> 02:39:28,960 the triangles 3780 02:39:38,469 --> 02:39:37,429 i have not seen the photo personally 3781 02:39:40,150 --> 02:39:38,479 but 3782 02:39:41,830 --> 02:39:40,160 and i'm this is going to go right back 3783 02:39:44,469 --> 02:39:41,840 to what we were talking about with our 3784 02:39:47,190 --> 02:39:44,479 sources quote unquote 3785 02:39:49,190 --> 02:39:47,200 i've been told it exists i've been told 3786 02:39:50,790 --> 02:39:49,200 people have seen it and i've been told 3787 02:39:53,190 --> 02:39:50,800 that it's gonna 3788 02:39:54,790 --> 02:39:53,200 it's coming it's coming and i know 3789 02:39:58,070 --> 02:39:54,800 everyone is rolling their eyes at me 3790 02:39:59,830 --> 02:39:58,080 right now i know that um but 3791 02:40:01,590 --> 02:39:59,840 that being said this article i've been 3792 02:40:04,830 --> 02:40:01,600 working on on the triangles has been in 3793 02:40:08,790 --> 02:40:04,840 the works for a really long time um 3794 02:40:10,790 --> 02:40:08,800 and all i can say is 3795 02:40:14,070 --> 02:40:10,800 stay tuned i don't think we've heard the 3796 02:40:15,590 --> 02:40:14,080 last of this photo of this story and uh 3797 02:40:18,550 --> 02:40:15,600 what's to come of it that's that's 3798 02:40:21,590 --> 02:40:18,560 really all i can say that's something 3799 02:40:26,710 --> 02:40:21,600 that's not a factoid 3800 02:40:29,030 --> 02:40:26,720 get the factoid out of you though about 3801 02:40:31,190 --> 02:40:29,040 this picture 3802 02:40:33,190 --> 02:40:31,200 right now yeah i mean 3803 02:40:35,110 --> 02:40:33,200 oh okay um 3804 02:40:36,550 --> 02:40:35,120 uh 3805 02:40:38,150 --> 02:40:36,560 who 3806 02:40:41,110 --> 02:40:38,160 and don't say you can't name your 3807 02:40:46,710 --> 02:40:43,670 who has told you that this photo's go is 3808 02:40:48,309 --> 02:40:46,720 is going to be released 3809 02:40:49,510 --> 02:40:48,319 who has told me that that it's going to 3810 02:40:50,790 --> 02:40:49,520 be released 3811 02:40:53,349 --> 02:40:50,800 uh 3812 02:40:55,990 --> 02:40:53,359 this is 3813 02:40:59,030 --> 02:40:56,000 an active member 3814 02:41:01,670 --> 02:40:59,040 of an intelligence agency this isn't a 3815 02:41:04,389 --> 02:41:01,680 former retired person this isn't someone 3816 02:41:07,030 --> 02:41:04,399 who knows somebody in the intelligence 3817 02:41:10,150 --> 02:41:07,040 agency this is someone working in the 3818 02:41:13,349 --> 02:41:10,160 intelligence agency right now i've i've 3819 02:41:14,710 --> 02:41:13,359 fact checked that i've verified that um 3820 02:41:16,389 --> 02:41:14,720 and 3821 02:41:18,950 --> 02:41:16,399 that's that's really all i can say in 3822 02:41:20,309 --> 02:41:18,960 terms of that is this person claiming 3823 02:41:22,550 --> 02:41:20,319 they've seen 3824 02:41:23,510 --> 02:41:22,560 said image 3825 02:41:28,950 --> 02:41:23,520 yes 3826 02:41:30,469 --> 02:41:28,960 me that they saw the photo and look i've 3827 02:41:33,030 --> 02:41:30,479 i've asked other people 3828 02:41:35,990 --> 02:41:33,040 who have made the same claims and all of 3829 02:41:38,389 --> 02:41:36,000 them said the same thing no i haven't 3830 02:41:41,110 --> 02:41:38,399 seen it but they saw it or they saw it 3831 02:41:45,190 --> 02:41:41,120 this person told me they saw the photo 3832 02:41:46,950 --> 02:41:45,200 yeah i've uh i've talked to probably 3833 02:41:48,150 --> 02:41:46,960 i i don't think the numbers are half a 3834 02:41:51,030 --> 02:41:48,160 dozen 3835 02:41:53,510 --> 02:41:51,040 but probably around four 3836 02:41:55,190 --> 02:41:53,520 um off the record not not on the air 3837 02:41:59,030 --> 02:41:55,200 that have all told me that they have 3838 02:42:01,910 --> 02:41:59,040 seen the image and this is the thing 3839 02:42:04,389 --> 02:42:01,920 i've asked each one of them details 3840 02:42:06,070 --> 02:42:04,399 about it and i've gotten 3841 02:42:09,110 --> 02:42:06,080 different answers 3842 02:42:11,670 --> 02:42:09,120 so i don't either they are 3843 02:42:12,389 --> 02:42:11,680 not telling me the truth right number 3844 02:42:13,910 --> 02:42:12,399 one 3845 02:42:14,870 --> 02:42:13,920 or two 3846 02:42:19,990 --> 02:42:14,880 they 3847 02:42:21,269 --> 02:42:20,000 is the one that everybody else is 3848 02:42:22,950 --> 02:42:21,279 talking about 3849 02:42:25,349 --> 02:42:22,960 but they have seen 3850 02:42:28,230 --> 02:42:25,359 different images 3851 02:42:29,429 --> 02:42:28,240 and they think it's they think it's the 3852 02:42:30,870 --> 02:42:29,439 image 3853 02:42:33,030 --> 02:42:30,880 um 3854 02:42:34,870 --> 02:42:33,040 right i don't know i you know it's 3855 02:42:37,429 --> 02:42:34,880 almost like this image has become an 3856 02:42:39,670 --> 02:42:37,439 enigma 3857 02:42:42,469 --> 02:42:39,680 it really has it yes it's sort of become 3858 02:42:44,950 --> 02:42:42,479 the the myth of our generation i think 3859 02:42:47,830 --> 02:42:44,960 when it comes to this now 3860 02:42:52,550 --> 02:42:47,840 i believe images like that do exist 3861 02:42:54,870 --> 02:42:52,560 i oh yes they and they absolutely do 3862 02:42:56,070 --> 02:42:54,880 and they are in the possession of the 3863 02:42:57,990 --> 02:42:56,080 government 3864 02:43:00,309 --> 02:42:58,000 the question is which section of the 3865 02:43:03,190 --> 02:43:00,319 government and and where are you you 3866 02:43:05,590 --> 02:43:03,200 know you're over here in the navy 3867 02:43:07,910 --> 02:43:05,600 you don't have exposure to this section 3868 02:43:09,990 --> 02:43:07,920 or you're over here and you don't you 3869 02:43:10,710 --> 02:43:10,000 know and things just don't overlap like 3870 02:43:17,590 --> 02:43:10,720 that 3871 02:43:20,790 --> 02:43:17,600 went uh interagency right it went from 3872 02:43:24,150 --> 02:43:20,800 nsa to nro to the navy to the cia to the 3873 02:43:25,429 --> 02:43:24,160 fbi and everybody's been chattering 3874 02:43:28,230 --> 02:43:25,439 about it 3875 02:43:30,870 --> 02:43:28,240 and and okay all right okay all of that 3876 02:43:33,190 --> 02:43:30,880 is cool i just want to see the image 3877 02:43:35,269 --> 02:43:33,200 the i just want to see in how has it not 3878 02:43:37,510 --> 02:43:35,279 been leaked yet that's but that's the 3879 02:43:40,710 --> 02:43:37,520 point that's the point 3880 02:43:43,429 --> 02:43:40,720 how is it that this image 3881 02:43:44,309 --> 02:43:43,439 hasn't been leaked 3882 02:43:51,269 --> 02:43:44,319 the 3883 02:43:53,910 --> 02:43:51,279 leaked i thought were pretty cool i mean 3884 02:43:56,630 --> 02:43:53,920 the the blimp one was something that i 3885 02:43:58,469 --> 02:43:56,640 just stepped back and went okay now that 3886 02:44:00,950 --> 02:43:58,479 needs some explanation because that 3887 02:44:03,190 --> 02:44:00,960 looks mando to me 3888 02:44:04,870 --> 02:44:03,200 that looks full on mando that looks 3889 02:44:06,790 --> 02:44:04,880 that's mandalorian 3890 02:44:09,510 --> 02:44:06,800 and yeah that's really cool 3891 02:44:13,590 --> 02:44:09,520 the the the problem that i had with it 3892 02:44:16,630 --> 02:44:13,600 is why i don't know if george uh himself 3893 02:44:17,670 --> 02:44:16,640 uh gave it the name the blimp or was 3894 02:44:19,750 --> 02:44:17,680 blimp 3895 02:44:21,110 --> 02:44:19,760 you know the designation given 3896 02:44:24,870 --> 02:44:21,120 internally 3897 02:44:26,710 --> 02:44:24,880 and they call it that or did they know 3898 02:44:28,630 --> 02:44:26,720 you know from pilots and everything else 3899 02:44:31,190 --> 02:44:28,640 that this was some kind of surveillance 3900 02:44:33,349 --> 02:44:31,200 balloon hours theirs or whatever but it 3901 02:44:35,030 --> 02:44:33,359 was just a balloon it's just a blimp uh 3902 02:44:37,510 --> 02:44:35,040 that would really bum me out because 3903 02:44:39,429 --> 02:44:37,520 that thing looked alien to me 3904 02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:39,439 um and it was it was a really great 3905 02:44:43,670 --> 02:44:42,080 image but it got leaked 3906 02:44:45,269 --> 02:44:43,680 and that's a cool image that's 3907 02:44:49,269 --> 02:44:45,279 unexplainable 3908 02:44:50,630 --> 02:44:49,279 why is this elusive triangle image not 3909 02:44:52,790 --> 02:44:50,640 leaked 3910 02:44:55,510 --> 02:44:52,800 yeah i i don't get it because there was 3911 02:44:59,429 --> 02:44:55,520 a leaky faucet there man there's a lot 3912 02:45:01,190 --> 02:44:59,439 of stuff that and and the other thing 3913 02:45:04,070 --> 02:45:01,200 uh the the 3914 02:45:07,110 --> 02:45:04,080 the images that george leaked 3915 02:45:10,389 --> 02:45:07,120 and those videos of the flying toasters 3916 02:45:14,070 --> 02:45:10,399 right from uh uh from corbell 3917 02:45:15,510 --> 02:45:14,080 um those got leaked and allegedly 3918 02:45:18,630 --> 02:45:15,520 they were 3919 02:45:20,389 --> 02:45:18,640 uh a part of the uap task force report 3920 02:45:23,269 --> 02:45:20,399 early on and then 3921 02:45:24,710 --> 02:45:23,279 uh susan gow of uh the department of 3922 02:45:26,230 --> 02:45:24,720 defense she comes out and says i can 3923 02:45:28,870 --> 02:45:26,240 tell you that 3924 02:45:30,309 --> 02:45:28,880 the images were part of the uap task 3925 02:45:36,630 --> 02:45:30,319 force report 3926 02:45:39,510 --> 02:45:36,640 referred to images referred to videos 3927 02:45:42,469 --> 02:45:39,520 referred to this that that wasn't in so 3928 02:45:45,349 --> 02:45:42,479 how was it part of the report 3929 02:45:47,830 --> 02:45:45,359 and that that i found straight i wanted 3930 02:45:49,750 --> 02:45:47,840 reference right i wanted to know what 3931 02:45:52,309 --> 02:45:49,760 this blimp was 3932 02:45:55,349 --> 02:45:52,319 and was it identified and and and how 3933 02:45:58,230 --> 02:45:55,359 was it a part of this report and then 3934 02:46:00,230 --> 02:45:58,240 uh to me uh ryan i know i'm rambling and 3935 02:46:02,870 --> 02:46:00,240 i've got a call on hold uh that i want 3936 02:46:03,990 --> 02:46:02,880 to take but is this 3937 02:46:07,110 --> 02:46:04,000 uh 3938 02:46:09,190 --> 02:46:07,120 why didn't anybody on the senate 3939 02:46:12,389 --> 02:46:09,200 intelligence committee why didn't 3940 02:46:14,309 --> 02:46:12,399 anybody from odni or and anybody from 3941 02:46:15,670 --> 02:46:14,319 the department of defense 3942 02:46:18,790 --> 02:46:15,680 say hey 3943 02:46:20,950 --> 02:46:18,800 who was leaking these videos 3944 02:46:23,590 --> 02:46:20,960 this is a classified report and you're 3945 02:46:26,870 --> 02:46:23,600 leaking videos out there 3946 02:46:28,790 --> 02:46:26,880 and there was no there was no concern 3947 02:46:31,349 --> 02:46:28,800 is that against the law i don't know if 3948 02:46:32,469 --> 02:46:31,359 it is but certainly nobody raised the 3949 02:46:34,070 --> 02:46:32,479 question 3950 02:46:36,230 --> 02:46:34,080 and and 3951 02:46:39,190 --> 02:46:36,240 i'm wondering do you think that they 3952 02:46:41,510 --> 02:46:39,200 didn't raise an issue because 3953 02:46:43,910 --> 02:46:41,520 they knew that these videos and these 3954 02:46:46,469 --> 02:46:43,920 images didn't show anything 3955 02:46:48,630 --> 02:46:46,479 right that they weren't e.t yeah 3956 02:46:51,670 --> 02:46:48,640 that and that's where i you know i run 3957 02:46:54,230 --> 02:46:51,680 into a lot of questions with uh you know 3958 02:46:56,630 --> 02:46:54,240 and and this isn't to disparage 3959 02:46:59,510 --> 02:46:56,640 george knapp or jeremy corbell um you 3960 02:47:01,670 --> 02:46:59,520 know they made some big ripples in the 3961 02:47:03,670 --> 02:47:01,680 past few months and uh 3962 02:47:05,349 --> 02:47:03,680 got some interesting stuff out there but 3963 02:47:08,870 --> 02:47:05,359 i do wonder 3964 02:47:11,190 --> 02:47:08,880 you know okay fine these videos were 3965 02:47:14,309 --> 02:47:11,200 given to you these were part of the 3966 02:47:16,550 --> 02:47:14,319 briefing or the report um but are they 3967 02:47:18,950 --> 02:47:16,560 explained we don't know 3968 02:47:21,750 --> 02:47:18,960 if what we're seeing in the photos now 3969 02:47:24,710 --> 02:47:21,760 brought forward or the debrief or jeremy 3970 02:47:27,510 --> 02:47:24,720 corbell if these actually have already 3971 02:47:29,750 --> 02:47:27,520 been explained and maybe that's why they 3972 02:47:32,230 --> 02:47:29,760 allowed these things to get out to the 3973 02:47:35,110 --> 02:47:32,240 public and maybe that's why susan goff 3974 02:47:37,349 --> 02:47:35,120 um was you know within hours 3975 02:47:41,349 --> 02:47:37,359 of being asked are these legitimate 3976 02:47:44,309 --> 02:47:41,359 pentagon uh excuse me you know odni 3977 02:47:46,389 --> 02:47:44,319 videos or whatnot and uh they said yes 3978 02:47:49,349 --> 02:47:46,399 whereas when it came to the tic tac the 3979 02:47:51,750 --> 02:47:49,359 gimbal oh god it took them what six 3980 02:47:54,150 --> 02:47:51,760 months to come forward and be like yes 3981 02:47:56,870 --> 02:47:54,160 those are official yes we're officially 3982 02:47:58,070 --> 02:47:56,880 releasing those um it does truly make 3983 02:48:00,790 --> 02:47:58,080 you wonder 3984 02:48:03,190 --> 02:48:00,800 were these kind of the uh the ones that 3985 02:48:05,590 --> 02:48:03,200 were explained and these were the ones 3986 02:48:07,830 --> 02:48:05,600 that they were testing 3987 02:48:09,670 --> 02:48:07,840 you know the task force with like look 3988 02:48:13,030 --> 02:48:09,680 at this what do you think it is right 3989 02:48:15,429 --> 02:48:13,040 and um you know so that is a possibility 3990 02:48:18,150 --> 02:48:15,439 were these kind of the um the scraps 3991 02:48:20,230 --> 02:48:18,160 that they let get out to people um and 3992 02:48:22,389 --> 02:48:20,240 again that is nothing against knapp and 3993 02:48:24,790 --> 02:48:22,399 corbell because they 3994 02:48:27,190 --> 02:48:24,800 look if i were given those things i'd 3995 02:48:29,190 --> 02:48:27,200 put them out there too and i know one of 3996 02:48:31,990 --> 02:48:29,200 them at least one of them that corbell 3997 02:48:34,550 --> 02:48:32,000 was in possession of uh they didn't even 3998 02:48:36,790 --> 02:48:34,560 know about the pentagon didn't even know 3999 02:48:39,349 --> 02:48:36,800 about and they put it out there before 4000 02:48:41,830 --> 02:48:39,359 the pentagon even knew about it so i i 4001 02:48:44,389 --> 02:48:41,840 don't know jimmy it's it's interesting 4002 02:48:46,309 --> 02:48:44,399 but to me it just says um you know 4003 02:48:47,910 --> 02:48:46,319 there's probably more out there and 4004 02:48:49,269 --> 02:48:47,920 there's these are the ones that they 4005 02:48:51,190 --> 02:48:49,279 allowed us 4006 02:48:53,110 --> 02:48:51,200 to see and what's in that classified 4007 02:48:55,349 --> 02:48:53,120 briefing like you said we got a seven 4008 02:48:57,990 --> 02:48:55,359 page preliminary assessment with not a 4009 02:49:00,950 --> 02:48:58,000 single case referenced in there and 4010 02:49:03,349 --> 02:49:00,960 nothing we got nothing but what did that 4011 02:49:06,550 --> 02:49:03,359 classified briefing in that classified 4012 02:49:09,830 --> 02:49:06,560 report say that's what i want to know 4013 02:49:14,389 --> 02:49:09,840 the uh the elusive black triangle 4014 02:49:15,349 --> 02:49:14,399 i mean is it is it what it's supposed to 4015 02:49:19,429 --> 02:49:15,359 be 4016 02:49:22,150 --> 02:49:19,439 up and and let's say it does get leaked 4017 02:49:24,710 --> 02:49:22,160 and we just go what that that 4018 02:49:26,550 --> 02:49:24,720 we were freaked out over this 4019 02:49:29,750 --> 02:49:26,560 doesn't show anything you know i hope 4020 02:49:31,990 --> 02:49:29,760 it's not that i hope it's oh holy crap 4021 02:49:34,950 --> 02:49:32,000 all right we've got something here 4022 02:49:36,389 --> 02:49:34,960 so we shall see then we have the 23 4023 02:49:39,429 --> 02:49:36,399 minute video 4024 02:49:41,670 --> 02:49:39,439 um exactly you know 4025 02:49:44,630 --> 02:49:41,680 uh and who's to say even if that did 4026 02:49:46,389 --> 02:49:44,640 come out you know everyone it's never 4027 02:49:48,389 --> 02:49:46,399 gonna be enough for people doesn't 4028 02:49:51,269 --> 02:49:48,399 matter how clear the photo is how long 4029 02:49:52,870 --> 02:49:51,279 the video is it's never gonna be enough 4030 02:49:55,190 --> 02:49:52,880 half the people are gonna say it was 4031 02:49:56,550 --> 02:49:55,200 faked the other are gonna say this and 4032 02:49:58,870 --> 02:49:56,560 that so 4033 02:50:01,510 --> 02:49:58,880 is it even worth it at that point i i 4034 02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:01,520 don't know but i can tell you this if it 4035 02:50:06,309 --> 02:50:04,080 comes out i'm gonna i'm gonna watch it 4036 02:50:07,590 --> 02:50:06,319 and i'm gonna dig into it for sure let's 4037 02:50:10,550 --> 02:50:07,600 uh let's go to the phones how you're 4038 02:50:13,510 --> 02:50:10,560 live on fade to black who's calling 4039 02:50:17,670 --> 02:50:13,520 hey guys it's eric the awakening man 4040 02:50:19,830 --> 02:50:17,680 oh ryan sprague's biggest fan 4041 02:50:21,190 --> 02:50:19,840 there you go 4042 02:50:23,030 --> 02:50:21,200 all right how you doing there look at 4043 02:50:24,950 --> 02:50:23,040 that game the awakening man i'm doing 4044 02:50:27,030 --> 02:50:24,960 okay i i i'm not going to be able to 4045 02:50:29,030 --> 02:50:27,040 hear ryan but i i do want to ask him a 4046 02:50:30,070 --> 02:50:29,040 couple old school questions and maybe 4047 02:50:34,230 --> 02:50:30,080 i'll just 4048 02:50:37,030 --> 02:50:34,240 but uh so i'm curious you had an italian 4049 02:50:38,710 --> 02:50:37,040 caller call in earlier let's test ryan 4050 02:50:40,790 --> 02:50:38,720 out a little bit here see if he uh 4051 02:50:41,750 --> 02:50:40,800 recalls the friendship case and maybe if 4052 02:50:43,510 --> 02:50:41,760 he can 4053 02:50:45,429 --> 02:50:43,520 if you guys could discuss that from 4054 02:50:46,550 --> 02:50:45,439 italy back in the day and then also the 4055 02:50:47,990 --> 02:50:46,560 montauk 4056 02:50:49,429 --> 02:50:48,000 project since he's from new york i'm 4057 02:50:51,830 --> 02:50:49,439 wondering if you ever put the boots on 4058 02:50:53,510 --> 02:50:51,840 the ground and went out to montauk 4059 02:50:55,349 --> 02:50:53,520 and last if you guys want to throw this 4060 02:50:57,349 --> 02:50:55,359 in that there are forests in new york 4061 02:50:59,190 --> 02:50:57,359 and there are bigfoot in york does ryan 4062 02:51:01,590 --> 02:50:59,200 know that 4063 02:51:03,190 --> 02:51:01,600 ryan is bigfoot 4064 02:51:07,990 --> 02:51:03,200 a lot of people 4065 02:51:08,870 --> 02:51:08,000 we have mom talk friendship 4066 02:51:11,110 --> 02:51:08,880 and 4067 02:51:13,750 --> 02:51:11,120 bigfoot all right eric i'll let you go 4068 02:51:15,750 --> 02:51:13,760 ahead and sign off and uh i'll make sure 4069 02:51:17,910 --> 02:51:15,760 that uh and and you can listen to it 4070 02:51:20,150 --> 02:51:17,920 i'll figure out the phones later but but 4071 02:51:22,389 --> 02:51:20,160 uh and i'll get answers to everything 4072 02:51:25,269 --> 02:51:22,399 enjoy your night my man 4073 02:51:26,550 --> 02:51:25,279 alright guys talk to you later bye 4074 02:51:28,469 --> 02:51:26,560 and uh 4075 02:51:30,790 --> 02:51:28,479 that's my fault for not meeting oh 4076 02:51:33,190 --> 02:51:30,800 somebody just complained the bunker cam 4077 02:51:35,750 --> 02:51:33,200 is off look man i'm having fun 4078 02:51:37,269 --> 02:51:35,760 said it's it's thursday night 4079 02:51:39,110 --> 02:51:37,279 you know uh 4080 02:51:40,150 --> 02:51:39,120 anyway okay 4081 02:51:41,990 --> 02:51:40,160 um 4082 02:51:44,870 --> 02:51:42,000 do you recall do you remember the 4083 02:51:48,710 --> 02:51:44,880 friendship case out of italy 4084 02:51:50,389 --> 02:51:48,720 i is this the one that happened with 4085 02:51:51,750 --> 02:51:50,399 the sporting event 4086 02:51:54,150 --> 02:51:51,760 no the last year 4087 02:51:56,070 --> 02:51:54,160 no no that that that's a whole nother 4088 02:51:58,950 --> 02:51:56,080 that's a whole nother show 4089 02:52:01,429 --> 02:51:58,960 the friendship case um i can't remember 4090 02:52:03,830 --> 02:52:01,439 the specific town 4091 02:52:06,150 --> 02:52:03,840 uh but it was seaside 4092 02:52:07,510 --> 02:52:06,160 and it was 4093 02:52:09,830 --> 02:52:07,520 uh 4094 02:52:13,190 --> 02:52:09,840 contact that was made 4095 02:52:16,710 --> 02:52:13,200 with these uh beings 4096 02:52:18,389 --> 02:52:16,720 that were if my memory is correct on it 4097 02:52:21,030 --> 02:52:18,399 i did a lot of research it's been a 4098 02:52:23,429 --> 02:52:21,040 while since i've gone back to it but i 4099 02:52:25,110 --> 02:52:23,439 believe that their ships they had an 4100 02:52:28,389 --> 02:52:25,120 underwater 4101 02:52:31,510 --> 02:52:28,399 little thing that was in the bay 4102 02:52:33,830 --> 02:52:31,520 um uh right there and they would come up 4103 02:52:36,630 --> 02:52:33,840 and make contact well they ended up 4104 02:52:40,469 --> 02:52:36,640 having um in this town 4105 02:52:42,710 --> 02:52:40,479 it was a group of ufologists um from the 4106 02:52:43,990 --> 02:52:42,720 small town somebody tell me 4107 02:52:47,830 --> 02:52:44,000 uh 4108 02:52:49,269 --> 02:52:47,840 so somebody tell me the town for for the 4109 02:52:51,269 --> 02:52:49,279 friendship case i don't i don't want to 4110 02:52:52,950 --> 02:52:51,279 look it up but they would get together 4111 02:52:54,309 --> 02:52:52,960 and and this went on for a couple of 4112 02:52:57,030 --> 02:52:54,319 years 4113 02:52:57,830 --> 02:52:57,040 and it was this official contact 4114 02:53:05,990 --> 02:52:57,840 and 4115 02:53:07,910 --> 02:53:06,000 uh the original contactee's house 4116 02:53:09,429 --> 02:53:07,920 and this went on for a couple of years 4117 02:53:10,870 --> 02:53:09,439 and then 4118 02:53:17,670 --> 02:53:10,880 ended 4119 02:53:20,230 --> 02:53:17,680 i think i think there was 4120 02:53:23,190 --> 02:53:20,240 you know so that's the friendship case 4121 02:53:25,670 --> 02:53:23,200 wow okay i gotta look into that there's 4122 02:53:27,910 --> 02:53:25,680 a couple of really cool uh documentaries 4123 02:53:30,630 --> 02:53:27,920 now this went down 4124 02:53:32,389 --> 02:53:30,640 i'm gonna take a guess 4125 02:53:35,830 --> 02:53:32,399 1958 4126 02:53:37,269 --> 02:53:35,840 i think 58 59 4127 02:53:40,150 --> 02:53:37,279 60. 4128 02:53:43,030 --> 02:53:40,160 it was even before i was born 4129 02:53:44,070 --> 02:53:43,040 i know right ancient history 4130 02:53:46,389 --> 02:53:44,080 you know 4131 02:53:48,550 --> 02:53:46,399 wow yeah i gotta look into that one i 4132 02:53:50,469 --> 02:53:48,560 hope i didn't let that call her down but 4133 02:53:53,990 --> 02:53:50,479 yeah that's a new one for me 4134 02:53:56,309 --> 02:53:54,000 definitely no what about my talk 4135 02:53:57,349 --> 02:53:56,319 uh yeah yeah i've been to montauk oh you 4136 02:54:00,550 --> 02:53:57,359 have 4137 02:54:03,590 --> 02:54:00,560 yep i've been out to camp hero i uh i i 4138 02:54:05,510 --> 02:54:03,600 did a film project out there and um 4139 02:54:08,389 --> 02:54:05,520 looked into the entire 4140 02:54:10,950 --> 02:54:08,399 you know backstory in history to that um 4141 02:54:13,030 --> 02:54:10,960 there was a documentary that came out by 4142 02:54:15,190 --> 02:54:13,040 uh christopher garatano i believe the 4143 02:54:18,389 --> 02:54:15,200 filmmaker on long island yep yep i 4144 02:54:20,070 --> 02:54:18,399 remember all of that okay did you uh 4145 02:54:21,910 --> 02:54:20,080 did you make it did you go on to the 4146 02:54:25,190 --> 02:54:21,920 base 4147 02:54:28,150 --> 02:54:25,200 so i was able to get to the the front 4148 02:54:31,429 --> 02:54:28,160 gates um i was not able to really get in 4149 02:54:34,469 --> 02:54:31,439 there but i when i was there kind of 4150 02:54:35,830 --> 02:54:34,479 looking around uh there was a group of 4151 02:54:38,469 --> 02:54:35,840 um 4152 02:54:40,469 --> 02:54:38,479 of guys out there who were seeing what 4153 02:54:42,870 --> 02:54:40,479 we were up to obviously we had cameras 4154 02:54:45,190 --> 02:54:42,880 and stuff out there so they're naturally 4155 02:54:46,950 --> 02:54:45,200 a little curious and we told them we're 4156 02:54:49,429 --> 02:54:46,960 we're looking into the montauk project 4157 02:54:51,510 --> 02:54:49,439 and um they were like oh 4158 02:54:53,590 --> 02:54:51,520 you ever seen the uh the videos of the 4159 02:54:55,590 --> 02:54:53,600 underground stuff and i i wasn't 4160 02:54:58,950 --> 02:54:55,600 familiar at the time oh no it's out 4161 02:55:00,950 --> 02:54:58,960 there yeah yeah yeah yeah and the dude 4162 02:55:03,990 --> 02:55:00,960 was like yeah our buddy shot one of the 4163 02:55:06,150 --> 02:55:04,000 videos he snuck on and got down under 4164 02:55:08,309 --> 02:55:06,160 into one of these bunkers because for so 4165 02:55:10,550 --> 02:55:08,319 long you know we heard this myth that 4166 02:55:12,230 --> 02:55:10,560 there there was an underground 4167 02:55:15,830 --> 02:55:12,240 you know 4168 02:55:19,110 --> 02:55:15,840 elevators that went down and yeah 4169 02:55:21,990 --> 02:55:19,120 and it was all mythology um and lo and 4170 02:55:24,630 --> 02:55:22,000 behold he called his friend up in like 4171 02:55:28,790 --> 02:55:24,640 i'd say maybe an hour later he shows up 4172 02:55:31,429 --> 02:55:28,800 with the actual video on like on because 4173 02:55:33,910 --> 02:55:31,439 in the camera you know and showed it to 4174 02:55:36,309 --> 02:55:33,920 us and it was pretty pretty remarkable 4175 02:55:39,030 --> 02:55:36,319 there is definitely 4176 02:55:40,790 --> 02:55:39,040 something underground at that base and 4177 02:55:43,510 --> 02:55:40,800 what went on down there we may never 4178 02:55:46,230 --> 02:55:43,520 truly know but they were down there and 4179 02:55:48,150 --> 02:55:46,240 there's an underground base under camp 4180 02:55:51,429 --> 02:55:48,160 here yeah there is and i know that for a 4181 02:55:52,630 --> 02:55:51,439 fact yeah and before we run out of time 4182 02:55:54,389 --> 02:55:52,640 um 4183 02:55:55,990 --> 02:55:54,399 there was 4184 02:55:57,510 --> 02:55:56,000 these official statements that were 4185 02:55:59,429 --> 02:55:57,520 coming there was nothing underground all 4186 02:56:00,950 --> 02:55:59,439 the buildings there were no basements 4187 02:56:02,630 --> 02:56:00,960 everything but all the office everything 4188 02:56:05,429 --> 02:56:02,640 was you know that said it was all above 4189 02:56:08,309 --> 02:56:05,439 ground and then you see these videos 4190 02:56:11,349 --> 02:56:08,319 there is definitely elevators and shafts 4191 02:56:12,550 --> 02:56:11,359 that are going down 4192 02:56:14,790 --> 02:56:12,560 underground 4193 02:56:16,389 --> 02:56:14,800 going somewhere 4194 02:56:18,230 --> 02:56:16,399 and that's just there there must be 4195 02:56:20,070 --> 02:56:18,240 stairs there must be other elevators 4196 02:56:20,870 --> 02:56:20,080 there's got to be access 4197 02:56:24,790 --> 02:56:20,880 and 4198 02:56:26,309 --> 02:56:24,800 down there but 4199 02:56:28,630 --> 02:56:26,319 you can't tell me that everything was 4200 02:56:31,910 --> 02:56:28,640 above ground when you've got two 4201 02:56:33,910 --> 02:56:31,920 elevators side by side with cables 4202 02:56:35,670 --> 02:56:33,920 that are stuck you can see the tops of 4203 02:56:38,389 --> 02:56:35,680 the elevators right you can look down 4204 02:56:40,469 --> 02:56:38,399 and and and see them very very 4205 02:56:42,150 --> 02:56:40,479 interesting everything else about 4206 02:56:44,950 --> 02:56:42,160 montauk the chair 4207 02:56:48,870 --> 02:56:44,960 right the chrono visor the time travel 4208 02:56:51,030 --> 02:56:48,880 the et's the entities the crazy uh you 4209 02:56:53,750 --> 02:56:51,040 know going back and seeing jesus on the 4210 02:56:56,070 --> 02:56:53,760 cross i don't know if if uh you know 4211 02:56:57,750 --> 02:56:56,080 mars and i i don't know i don't i don't 4212 02:57:00,070 --> 02:56:57,760 know about any of that 4213 02:57:01,670 --> 02:57:00,080 um but well you know i met jimmy i 4214 02:57:03,910 --> 02:57:01,680 actually met one of the 4215 02:57:05,030 --> 02:57:03,920 the montauk boys you know one of these 4216 02:57:08,950 --> 02:57:05,040 guys 4217 02:57:11,590 --> 02:57:08,960 uh oh gosh what was his name um 4218 02:57:15,110 --> 02:57:11,600 michael michael something 4219 02:57:16,309 --> 02:57:15,120 um i actually attended his hypnotic 4220 02:57:18,070 --> 02:57:16,319 regression 4221 02:57:19,990 --> 02:57:18,080 when he was recalling 4222 02:57:22,790 --> 02:57:20,000 what happened to him down there 4223 02:57:25,750 --> 02:57:22,800 presumably and you know 4224 02:57:27,830 --> 02:57:25,760 under hypnosis whatever he was recalling 4225 02:57:30,150 --> 02:57:27,840 was severely traumatic i mean he was 4226 02:57:32,550 --> 02:57:30,160 crying he was shivering he was shaking 4227 02:57:35,269 --> 02:57:32,560 as he's recalling these experiments they 4228 02:57:38,469 --> 02:57:35,279 did on him down there again allegedly 4229 02:57:41,510 --> 02:57:38,479 and um either this guy experienced these 4230 02:57:44,070 --> 02:57:41,520 things or he has convinced himself so 4231 02:57:45,910 --> 02:57:44,080 much that this happened that it affected 4232 02:57:49,349 --> 02:57:45,920 him that way or he's one of the greatest 4233 02:57:51,030 --> 02:57:49,359 actors i've ever seen in my life but uh 4234 02:57:53,190 --> 02:57:51,040 and then you have again they're just 4235 02:57:55,590 --> 02:57:53,200 stories until there's evidence then you 4236 02:57:57,110 --> 02:57:55,600 have stuart swerdlow and i've had him on 4237 02:57:59,349 --> 02:57:57,120 the show a couple of times back in the 4238 02:58:00,389 --> 02:57:59,359 day i think i even had him on coast to 4239 02:58:03,510 --> 02:58:00,399 coast 4240 02:58:06,550 --> 02:58:03,520 and he's one of the original 4241 02:58:10,150 --> 02:58:06,560 uh montauk uh 4242 02:58:12,230 --> 02:58:10,160 uh participants i'll just go that far 4243 02:58:12,640 --> 02:58:12,240 and the 4244 02:58:14,790 --> 02:58:12,650 the 4245 02:58:16,870 --> 02:58:14,800 [Music] 4246 02:58:19,429 --> 02:58:16,880 the stories are incredible 4247 02:58:21,269 --> 02:58:19,439 and all of it was 4248 02:58:23,590 --> 02:58:21,279 pretty 4249 02:58:25,910 --> 02:58:23,600 dub not debunkable 4250 02:58:29,510 --> 02:58:25,920 but a lot of these things were answered 4251 02:58:32,630 --> 02:58:29,520 uh directly about what camp hero and the 4252 02:58:34,950 --> 02:58:32,640 and then as it turns out in the end that 4253 02:58:36,630 --> 02:58:34,960 that was disinformation in my opinion 4254 02:58:39,110 --> 02:58:36,640 coming from the government 4255 02:58:40,630 --> 02:58:39,120 uh and others there about everything 4256 02:58:43,030 --> 02:58:40,640 being built above ground that there was 4257 02:58:45,349 --> 02:58:43,040 nothing underground well clearly there 4258 02:58:48,070 --> 02:58:45,359 was evidence that shows the opposite of 4259 02:58:48,950 --> 02:58:48,080 that um i would i would love to go up 4260 02:58:51,990 --> 02:58:48,960 there 4261 02:58:52,870 --> 02:58:52,000 uh jump the fence and and start poking 4262 02:58:54,950 --> 02:58:52,880 around 4263 02:58:57,590 --> 02:58:54,960 you know i let's do it is it is it 4264 02:58:58,950 --> 02:58:57,600 illegal i mean are there no trespassing 4265 02:59:01,190 --> 02:58:58,960 signs 4266 02:59:03,510 --> 02:59:01,200 there are it is you know it's still 4267 02:59:04,309 --> 02:59:03,520 owned by i believe now it's owned by the 4268 02:59:05,590 --> 02:59:04,319 um 4269 02:59:08,309 --> 02:59:05,600 uh what would you call it the long 4270 02:59:10,550 --> 02:59:08,319 island like forestry department because 4271 02:59:12,870 --> 02:59:10,560 it is a safety hazard because it's it's 4272 02:59:14,710 --> 02:59:12,880 dilapidated it's falling apart um you 4273 02:59:17,190 --> 02:59:14,720 know the radar thing is still there but 4274 02:59:19,349 --> 02:59:17,200 it's gonna go any day man so i 4275 02:59:21,510 --> 02:59:19,359 understand why they don't want people 4276 02:59:24,710 --> 02:59:21,520 going around there but um 4277 02:59:26,550 --> 02:59:24,720 and they do have people that guard it as 4278 02:59:29,030 --> 02:59:26,560 well which is really funny you got a 4279 02:59:31,590 --> 02:59:29,040 decommissioned base but you still have 4280 02:59:33,910 --> 02:59:31,600 guards there um really interesting 4281 02:59:35,510 --> 02:59:33,920 really interesting but um i didn't know 4282 02:59:37,349 --> 02:59:35,520 about it i don't know 4283 02:59:39,429 --> 02:59:37,359 yeah 4284 02:59:41,429 --> 02:59:39,439 no i think i think we should do it i 4285 02:59:44,790 --> 02:59:41,439 think we should do it i mean who's 4286 02:59:46,790 --> 02:59:44,800 guarding it is it for strangers 4287 02:59:48,950 --> 02:59:46,800 yes yep when i was there that's who 4288 02:59:51,110 --> 02:59:48,960 we're oh they're bribable that that's 4289 02:59:54,070 --> 02:59:51,120 that's a fully bribable 4290 02:59:56,950 --> 02:59:54,080 that's a bribe bring some t-shirts you 4291 02:59:58,630 --> 02:59:56,960 know bring it bring us some hats 4292 03:00:00,630 --> 02:59:58,640 and uh yeah 4293 03:00:02,389 --> 03:00:00,640 we'll get in there ryan thank you so 4294 03:00:03,830 --> 03:00:02,399 much now uh what's the deal with uh 4295 03:00:05,590 --> 03:00:03,840 somewhere in the skies you said you were 4296 03:00:07,349 --> 03:00:05,600 gonna take a hiatus was that to write 4297 03:00:09,110 --> 03:00:07,359 the book 4298 03:00:10,790 --> 03:00:09,120 yeah so i took a little break but you 4299 03:00:12,469 --> 03:00:10,800 know how that goes man you say you're 4300 03:00:15,750 --> 03:00:12,479 gonna take a break and it never really 4301 03:00:17,670 --> 03:00:15,760 happens um so i you know a couple weeks 4302 03:00:20,070 --> 03:00:17,680 ago i went on vacation with my family 4303 03:00:22,070 --> 03:00:20,080 which was wonderful you just got to step 4304 03:00:23,750 --> 03:00:22,080 away from the internet and and 4305 03:00:26,309 --> 03:00:23,760 everything but 4306 03:00:28,230 --> 03:00:26,319 my vacation was at the spot where my ufo 4307 03:00:31,110 --> 03:00:28,240 sighting happened as a kid so i couldn't 4308 03:00:34,389 --> 03:00:31,120 escape it entirely 4309 03:00:37,269 --> 03:00:34,399 but yeah man staying busy um i did want 4310 03:00:39,110 --> 03:00:37,279 to mention if it's okay this weekend um 4311 03:00:40,870 --> 03:00:39,120 i'm taking part in a really cool event 4312 03:00:44,309 --> 03:00:40,880 called the big phone home 4313 03:00:49,910 --> 03:00:47,190 okay okay september 4th through the 6th 4314 03:00:51,990 --> 03:00:49,920 okay um right on youtube you know just 4315 03:00:54,469 --> 03:00:52,000 type in the bigphonehome.com 4316 03:00:57,030 --> 03:00:54,479 and we're just chatting ufos a bunch of 4317 03:01:00,070 --> 03:00:57,040 people in the field and personalities 4318 03:01:02,870 --> 03:01:00,080 military scientists and uh calling our 4319 03:01:05,030 --> 03:01:02,880 congress members senators being like hey 4320 03:01:07,670 --> 03:01:05,040 you should look into this ufo thing um 4321 03:01:09,590 --> 03:01:07,680 again we're not thinking we're gonna 4322 03:01:12,389 --> 03:01:09,600 get disclosure but let's keep the 4323 03:01:14,389 --> 03:01:12,399 pressure on the united states government 4324 03:01:17,349 --> 03:01:14,399 you know this preliminary assessment was 4325 03:01:19,830 --> 03:01:17,359 one thing but we got to keep it going if 4326 03:01:21,190 --> 03:01:19,840 we want anything to change and um so 4327 03:01:23,870 --> 03:01:21,200 we're gonna have this live event for 4328 03:01:25,910 --> 03:01:23,880 three days on youtube and it's at uh 4329 03:01:28,550 --> 03:01:25,920 thebigphonehome.com and that's my last 4330 03:01:31,510 --> 03:01:28,560 shameless promotion no do that get it 4331 03:01:34,550 --> 03:01:31,520 out there in twitter so i can retweet 4332 03:01:36,950 --> 03:01:34,560 and uh and help everybody out there and 4333 03:01:38,870 --> 03:01:36,960 and i'll do what i can for you ryan 4334 03:01:39,910 --> 03:01:38,880 thank you so much enjoy the rest of your 4335 03:01:41,750 --> 03:01:39,920 weekend 4336 03:01:44,230 --> 03:01:41,760 just an amazing night and a great 4337 03:01:46,150 --> 03:01:44,240 conversation thank you so much 4338 03:01:48,150 --> 03:01:46,160 it was so much fun man thank you we'll 4339 03:01:50,710 --> 03:01:48,160 do it again i know for sure thank you 4340 03:01:52,550 --> 03:01:50,720 thank you ryan sprague and look it's all 4341 03:01:54,790 --> 03:01:52,560 simple somewhere on the skies.com you 4342 03:01:57,750 --> 03:01:54,800 can do that ryan is in twitter he's 4343 03:02:00,389 --> 03:01:57,760 hanging out on facebook he's a gen zer 4344 03:02:02,389 --> 03:02:00,399 it's what he does ryan thank you so much 4345 03:02:03,990 --> 03:02:02,399 my friend my best to everybody thank you 4346 03:02:05,990 --> 03:02:04,000 so much 4347 03:02:08,469 --> 03:02:06,000 take care ryan 4348 03:02:10,550 --> 03:02:08,479 ryan sprague i just hit the wrong button 4349 03:02:13,590 --> 03:02:10,560 what a great night on the show thank you 4350 03:02:15,429 --> 03:02:13,600 to everybody congratulations of course 4351 03:02:17,670 --> 03:02:15,439 to catalina and carrie they're going to 4352 03:02:20,309 --> 03:02:17,680 the pasadena film festival it's going to 4353 03:02:21,990 --> 03:02:20,319 be great to see them there 4354 03:02:24,150 --> 03:02:22,000 somewhere in the skies ryan sprague 4355 03:02:26,469 --> 03:02:24,160 thank you so much fade to blacks 4356 03:02:28,550 --> 03:02:26,479 produced by hilton j paul renee dennis 4357 03:02:30,710 --> 03:02:28,560 and kevin announcers are steve harder 4358 03:02:33,269 --> 03:02:30,720 gene vitello mark t kobar webmasters 4359 03:02:35,830 --> 03:02:33,279 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03:03:06,640 --> 03:03:03,439 until then 4375 03:03:25,740 --> 03:03:06,650 it's time to fade to black 4376 03:03:25,750 --> 03:03:29,830 [Music] 4377 03:03:29,840 --> 03:03:33,290 so